‘Zulqarnain’s tears spared him from heavy punishment’

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    KARACHI: Pakistan’s runaway wicketkeeper Zulqarnain Haider, despite putting the country’s integrity on line, escaped with a small fine as he cried in front of the disciplinary committee not to come down hard on him as his father was suffering from a kidney problem while government pressure too was involved in the decision.

    A well-placed source told ‘The News’ on Tuesday that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) officials softened their stance citing genuine problems with the player’s father.

    “Zulqarnain cried in front of the committee and since the board officials had the information that his father was really suffering from ill health that is why he wasn’t slapped with a hefty fine,” a source said.

    “Another reason for a lenient step against him was because of the government’s pressure to clear the player without any serious action.”

    Haider was let off with a small fine of Rs 0.5 million and was put on a one year observation for violating the player’s code of conduct, whereas former skipper Shahid Afridi was hit with a massive fine of Rs 4.5 million.

    Haider fled the team hotel in Dubai for London last November without informing the team management over alleged death threats while playing in a one-day series against South Africa. He said he had been threatened by an unknown person who wanted him to cooperate in match-fixing during the series. His case for asylum was seen as very weak and was rejected, which left him in a limbo. But only an interference of interior minister Rehman Malik saved his sinking ship, who gave him security assurances and asked him to appear and face disciplinary proceedings by the PCB. The player later returned in April. Critics have lambasted the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) for sparing the cricketer who brought a bad name to Pakistan cricket.

    Meanwhile, another senior official of the PCB said that Haider could have never returned to Pakistan without the support of interior minister Rehman Malik because the ‘match-fixing’ mafia is too strong and would have killed him just like they brushed aside people like Hansie Cronje and Bob Woolmer.

    “Since he was assured of fool-proof security, he returned unharmed and withdrew his claims,” the source added.

    “The government too seems to be part of Haider’s drama as well because they had earlier caught some bookies from Sialkot, who according to them were threatening Haider but yet their capture did not lead to further arrests which shows what is going on.

    “If the decision would have been taken on solely merit, he was destined to get a seriously heavy fine — more than that Afridi received — and a lengthy ban. We all felt that he put the country’s prestige on line, when already the country’s cricket was reeling with the ‘spot-fixing’ issue.”

    Meanwhile, the player has come out of a temporary retirement and has openly expressed his wish to represent Pakistan again. But the official feels that he is unlikely to be considered again because the board does not trust him and will not provide him another opportunity to malign Pakistan’s name.

    But he added that nothing can be said with surety because no one knows when government might intervene to force the board to induct him.

    He also revealed that team management on the tour of England had received reports that one of their players was seeking asylum in United Kingdom and they thought it was Mohammad Asif. However, it turned out to be Haider and hence, it was clear that he wanted to take refuge in England.

    Sultan Rana, who was the head of the committee and Haider, both were contacted but they did not answer the call.

    ‘Zulqarnain’s tears spared him from heavy punishment’
     
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  2. CORNERED TIGER
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    he should never be selected for pakistan again.... after the comedy he done...
    i wonder how much money he made.... by doing such a.... drama!
     
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    There is some truth to what he said, he helped Pakistan win in one of those matches against S.A.
    The rest of the matches were decided with S.A wining with close margins.
    If my memory serves me right, in one match he was batting with fawad alam and Pakistan were in strong position to win it but fawad messed it up by wasting too many deliveries and giving his wicket in the end.
    Its not the first time that fawad disappointed the nation but it seemed somewhat deliberate when fawad or any tail-ender would have been fairly capable to finish the match with Pakistan in winning position but fawad played too many dot balls rendering the tail unable todo anything about it.
    The next match fawad did the same thing but zulqarnain saved it and played a winning knock in the end.

    Guess who would have benefited from zulqarnain's exclusion from team.....yep the back up wicketkeeper in the talks at that time SARFRAZ AHMED supported by Geo media cell / mqm (rashid, moin) / Karachi lobby
    yes there were too many talks on geo super at that time to play sarfraz as back up keeper when no one really knew anything about him.
    The analysts kept on regurgitating his sole credential that was his keeping at that time.

    but that's not the whole story, zulqarnain must've agitated / offended someone else like shakeel sheikh, subhan ahmed & co from corrupt mafia in Punjab to wind up fleeing to England under death threats.
    zulqarnain was probably the only player selected on merit at that time thus he might've been perceived as "misfit" in the "system" at that time.
     
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    Here we go again. It seems the players from Karachi have to fly where as players from "real Pakistan" can just walk or even stumble. Your dislike for Karachi players is pretty evident dude no matter how much you deny it.
     
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    lol, now I know to never take any of your posts seriously.
     
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    sell-out stallions Youngsta Beauty

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    yeh why didn't they follow up properly? it's because it would've led to big fishes of PP, the ruling party at that time.
    The bookies in Sialkot were active because of shoaib malik who in turn had connections with PP and Karachi lobby

    and there is no doubt in my mind that if JIT is formed on basit ali's allegations then many culprits will be unmasked.

    shoaib malik from stallions indeed took bribe from weakened dolphins side to lose domestic t20 match in order to preserve dolphin's integrity......and the reward was not only the money at that time....it was a guaranteed spot for malik in ODI side for pleasing Karachi lobby / geo media cell / afridi who were all quite powerful at that time.
     
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    Someone following in the footsteps of his beloved Janasheen Mamoon.
     
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    sell-out stallions Youngsta Beauty

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    there is no issue with whether I'm Krachite or not. there is no Sindh, Punjab, Baluchistan, KPK or Fata when cricket is meant to unite all of us. The issue is corruption here destroying the very game we loved once.
    The agenda is to make us indifferent to the only game that make us feel like we are the nation with integrity.

    Javed miandad is the greatest legendary batsman to have ever graced Pakistan's cricket
    rashid latif is an honest man and a great patriot
    shahid afridi, no one can deny his contributions
    anwar ali.....what a marvelous display of batting and bowling in S.A. I want him to keep playing even if plays only as specialist batsman. he should be in team right now
    asad shafiq...decent batsman


    forget about my posts, if it goes on like this no one will take Pkaistan's cricket seriously.
     
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    sell-out stallions Youngsta Beauty

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    Does that make me a Karachi hater if I don't see any match winning potential in sarfraz and fawad?
     
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    We see nothing of substance in your posts.
     
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    sell-out stallions Youngsta Beauty

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    who are "we"?
    sarfraz and fawad fantasy club ? :rofl

    if you see no substance than why get defensive when I bring up your "cherry picked" Karachi boys.
    if you see it as something trivial then pass by or better yet don't bother.
     
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    A for Akmal
    B for Brothers
    C for Catch
    D for Drop
    :p
     
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    this post is not in anyway a jab directed specifically at fawad alam. When I used the word "deliberate", I wasn't referring to fawad's inability that cost us a match. It was all meant to draw implications towards match / spot fixing.
    In spot fixing everyone is given a specific role that they have to fulfill at certain time in innings

    lets just say I wrote it under a pretext of zulqarnain accusations being truthful.

    so if in case zulqarnain was right then why bookies only threatened him?
    ok one reason could be that he was relatively new in national squad and SO WAS FAWAD at that time so why bookies only targeted him?
    WHY NOT FAWAD?

    had fawad already dealt with bookies? or bookies didn't contact him to begin with?

    how many other players senior / younger players were actually contacted by bookies in that particular series? and if they received any threats?

    this matter should be seriously looked into
    independent investigation is required
    leaving it to pcb's hands was a joke to begin with
     
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    I know Fawad has been disappointing recently - but the match you're talking about, Fawad played a good knock, and was the only reason why we came close. He brought us near the finishing line, but he is not a big hitter and couldn't finish it. That's the problem with Fawad, he can score runs, but when quick runs are needed - expect him to fail. Fadi did his part, if Razzaq - or Wahab who had batted well in that match were with him at the end, we would have won. Also, I don't see you mentioning Farhat's slow innings in that match ?

    Re. Sarfraz, what's your beef with him ? We haven't been able to form a niche for him in LO's, but he's doing pretty well in tests, making quick runs at 7, and his keeping has improved too. So what's the problem here ? Zulqarnain had a goo test debut, but in the LO games he played, he didn't make too much of an impact, even in the 4th ODI, Wahab made more of an impact than Zulqarnain, and he was batting at 11 for Bahawalpur Stags in the FBT20*, there's no comparison between the batting abilities of the two. Plus anyone who says, they're going to commit suicide infront of the Buckhingam Palace is mentally shot, but lets not go there...

    * Here is what Im talking about, look at ZH's batting position, even Mohammad Talha was batting above him:

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/626120.html
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/594150.html
     
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    Zulqarnain was nothing more than a tail-ender. However, he was a decent dude, he used to reply to my messages when he was on Facebook.
     
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    Lol, you had him on FB.

    I have Zafar Gohar on FB, he's a nice chap. Does reply to my messages, and has liked a few of my statuses as well :lol
     
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    Ahson Afzal & P.B



    That memory is still vivid in my mind and I can recall that the equation at the end of a chase (3rd odi) didn't require hitting at all...if they could simply go by run a ball they would've easily won.

    fawad turned the match around for that I give him credit but then it didn't need massive hitting from fawad if he just continued the way he was playing, he would've finished the game himself without a hitch.

    It's not that S.African bowling put an extra pressure on him to stop runs or singles either by closing in on him...the gaps were still visible on the field for singles.

    On the top of it all dale steyn and charles lengeveldt were not playing and rest of S.A bowling line up didn't look formidable at all.

    It's just that something strange got into fawad's mind and all of sudden it seemed that he faltered under pressure with a couple of strange shots, sure others must've contributed but when will fawad learn to take matters in his own hands? It was as much of his job to finish the game as others. why he was always looking up to others to finish it? why leave it to them?


    There was definitely something fishy going on, I still can not forget that expression on fawad's face like he knew how it would all end.

    Pakistan lost by 2 runs and Fawad remained not out.


    Just a reminder, it didn't need any hitting at all...it certainly raised some suspicions about what was going on there...I wouldn't mind my suspicions leading me to believe that there indeed was some match / spot fixing involved in a match.

    coincidentally zulqarnain allegations after he fled to England before 5th odi only added fuel to fire.

    From that point on, I started monitoring fawad's performances both in domestic and odi ...that day to this day nothing has changed about him...he's still the same.

     


    Sarfraz is fine in tests but in odi's / t20's we should be looking for alternatives. I've been following him in domestic for a long time and I know there's no worse player than sarfraz when he's complacent or secure about his position. I'm waiting for a miracle if someone like sarfraz can evolve into a dependable wicketkeeper batsman.


    zulqarnain's originally from lahore lions but since kamran had a rancor for him due to zulqarnain replacing him in national side, it played a part too for zulqarnain's demise.

    As said there might be multiple lobbying pressures in dragging zulqarnain to where he is now.

    Probably the poor guy just came in at wrong place at wrong time.
    soon kamran transitioned from lahore eagles to lions when zulqarnain was banned.


    After his comeback zulqarnain started playing from bahawalpur where he's just going through the motion nowadays. Apparently he has lost any hope for a comeback.

    He used to play in the middle / lower middle order in lahore lions but since his comeback, things are weird.

    there might be 2 reason for him playing so low, either he has lost all confidence in himself or his batting.

    or management just playing him at that spot to nip in the bud any chance of him progressing at domestic level.

    I still believe that he's under some surveillance or pressure.
     

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