Are the Indians positioning themselves for genocide? (Indian revoked article 370 in IoK)

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  1. pat
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    Not unlike hindu boy getting killed for dating a muslim girl. Occasional law order problems. nothing more
     
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    You can label "Occasional law order" only if it happens sporadically one in a blue moon and not every other day.

    And a massive LOL at "hindu boy getting killed for dating a muslim girl" that too in India of Modi, go and sale this somewhere else.
     
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    cough *bullshit* cough. although the following prestigious media outlet stories highlight the opinions of islamphobic racists that echo similar sentiments to the ones you've represented on these boards:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-government-considers-a-muslim-ban-11555629051
    "At a campaign rally in West Bengal last week, BJP President Amit Shah likened Muslim migrants from Bangladesh to “termites” who “are eating the grain that should go to the poor.” He promised that a BJP government would toss out all “infiltrators,” except for Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-48278441


    One of the most chilling examples was what happened in the aftermath of one of the most gruesome gang rapes in India in recent years.

    In January last year, an eight-year-old Muslim girl was taking the family's horses to graze, when she was kidnapped in Kathua district in Indian-administered Kashmir.

    Held captive for a week in a Hindu temple, she was drugged and repeatedly gang raped and tortured before she was murdered.


    A police report filed afterwards said the crime was part of a plan by a group of Hindu men to drive the nomadic Muslim Bakerwal community that she belonged to, away from the area.

    More than a year on, a policeman stands guard outside her family home in a remote part of Kathua, hidden at the end of a long and bumpy dirt track.

    "They said this is the daughter of a Muslim, kill her and they'll get scared and run away," her father told me as he wiped tears from his eyes.

    Her parents refuse to give up the home their little girl once lived in, but they're concerned about their safety.

    "We're scared to go out now as we fear for our lives," her mother said. "If we step out, people swear at us and threaten to beat us."

    In the aftermath of the eight-year-old girl's death, hundreds took to the streets and marched. But many of the local protests were in support of the eight Hindu men charged with the gruesome attack, and not in solidarity with the victim and her family.

    Two BJP ministers serving in the state government, Chaudhary Lal Singh and Chander Prakash Ganga, were among those who took to the streets to support the alleged perpetrators.



    https://www.themuslim500.com/guest-contributions-2019/indian-muslim-persecution/

    In June 2018, the Thomas Reuters Foundation published a survey that named India the most dangerous country for women. The survey interviewed 548 experts and used six indexes, including sexual and non-sexual violence as well as human trafficking. In a country that is 80% Hindu, 12% Muslim, 2-3% Christian, and less than 2% Sikh, minorities are disproportionately the targets of sex and hate crimes, with Dalits (low-caste Hindus) taking the lead followed by Muslims.

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    In 2017, IndiaSpend reported that 84% of the victims of vigilante cow violence were Muslims since 2010. Muslims account for more than 97% of such incidents since May 2014, the same year that Narenda Modi, former Chief Minister of Gujarat during the infamous 2002 riots that left up to 2000 people dead—mostly Muslims—was elected as the Prime Minister of India.

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    Amnesty International India, which has maintained a database of hate crimes since 2015, says that there has been an “alarming increase” in the number of hate crimes against marginalized groups. Of the 100 hate crimes during the first six months of 2018, 22 were against Muslims, indicating that Muslims are targets of such crimes at nearly twice their representation in the country’s population . Amnesty also indicates that hate crimes are worst in Uttar Pradesh, India’s most Muslim-populous state, followed by Gujarat.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/20/mobs-killing-muslims-india-narendra-modi-bjp

    In India, killing cows and the consumption of beef is banned in most states. Since Modi and his party assumed power in 2014, this beef ban has been used by Hindu nationalists to justify their attacks on innocent Muslims in public.

    Barely a month ago in the city of Hapur, an hour’s drive from the capital, Delhi, two Muslim men were attacked on the street while police stood by guarding the mob. One of the two was kicked and dragged along as he lay unconscious and later died of his injuries. The other, an elderly man, was pulled by his beard and dragged through a field, blood dripping from his face as he begged for mercy while they kept thrashing him with wooden planks. The emboldened crowd recorded a video of this inhuman act and shared it across WhatsApp and social media, a common practice associated with these acts of mob violence.

    A report by the data-based news organisation India Spend found that “Muslims were the target of 51% of violence centred on bovine issues over nearly eight years (2010 to 2017) – and they comprised 84% of 25 Indians killed in 60 incidents. As many as 97% of these attacks were reported after Narendra Modi’s government came to power in May 2014.”

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    One would have expected the prime minister to call for an end to this violence. Yet a week after the attacks in Hapur, Jayant Sinha, one of the most important ministers in Modi’s cabinet, honoured eight convicts accused of lynching and killing a Muslim man. This is not an isolated incident . In 2015, soon after the conservative BJP came to power, a legislator from the party honoured the body of someone accused of a similar assault with the national flag.

    This is encouraged by Modi’s government, which routinely disseminates fake news, targeting and demonising Indian Muslims. Modi is creating a dangerous precedent before the next general election, setting the tone for an India whose syncretic values and democratic principles are under threat.

    Modi was head of the state of Gujarat when hundreds of Muslims were killed with impunity in the riots of 2002.
     
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    You need to do poll if you're really itching to know the answer, because its very childish to ask such thing with an individual or even from a group.

    Even though I dont speak for Pakistani's but odd are high that if you go on streets and ask this from civilians, then they will say yes, we will, because atm emotions are running very high.
     
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    A report by the data-based news organisation India Spend found that “Muslims were the target of 51% of violence centred on bovine issues over nearly eight years (2010 to 2017) – and they comprised 84% of 25 Indians killed in 60 incidents. As many as 97% of these attacks were reported after Narendra Modi’s government came to power in May 2014.”

    occasional law order problems for anyone who thinks muslims are termites that should be killed it would seem.
     
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    one thing I do hope that happens in pakistan is that the hindu and sikh minorities do not suffer any backlash at all.

    i'm sure im not alone in very strongly feeling that what is happening across the border is at the behest of brainwashed, poor people led by biggoted hate filled racists and islamophobes that are at the very bottom of the barrel of humanity, along with fascists, mass murderers, genocidal maniacs and evil filth that have peppered human history, and that there are plenty of indians that do not agree with their government.

    under no circumstances should we emulate the hate of people like this and their supporters, like pat, and use collective culpability.
     
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    Gujarat's Hindu nationalist-led state government under Chief Minister Narendra Modi has always maintained a Muslim mob attacked the Godhra train, causing the fire and sparking the subsequent riots.

    However, a government report in January said the fire may have begun by accident inside the train .

    The state government and Mr Modi have come under intense criticism for their handling of the riots.

    Human rights groups say the authorities failed to take measures to prevent retribution against Muslims.

    Recently, a police officer said the Gujarat government had authorised the killing of Muslims after the riots, a charge the state government denies.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4536199.stm

    hmmm. the British broadcasting corporation, or pat the muslim hater?
     
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    a brilliant talk by Prashant Bhushan, a public interest lawyer in the Supreme Court of India and an activist. telling us 1) the issue in india is not about indians, its about modi's bap and his supporters, and 2) a fascinating insight into just how corrupt, nefarious and evil this man is:

     
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    BBC, there is neutral trustworthy source on Ind-pak matters.

    Govt report? by the Central govt of Congress which wanted to put away BJP? no conflict of interest there

    In addition a Indian govt report is credible when it suits you.

    Cough BS cough
     
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    Another WKK. nothing more. Idiots have ruled and ruined the country of 70+ years. bye bye to these idiots..


    >>Prashant Bhushan is the oldest of the four children of Shanti Bhushan and Kumud Bhushan. His father is a lawyer-activist and a former Union Law Minister in the Morarji Desai government.<<<

    Maybe his father drank piss like his boss and son has piss filled brains?
     
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    so The BBC is biased! of course it is! should have known. but the state government is totally not biased after slaughtering hundreds of innocent people, no bias there at all. nope, no conflict of interest there. cough BS cough.

    on the other hand the source you have quoted - "pat" - is recognised for its unbiased independent opinion? nice one.

    there's several more sources in that post above, which of course youve also conveniently ignored. perhaps we should only utilise the fascist times, brietbart or the burning muslim weekly for unbiased sources of information?
     
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    QED.
     
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    Anyway none of this would have been a 'problem if 1) Jinnah hadn't send in terrorist to capture J&K 2) If Pak had followed the UN resolution and withdrawn all it troops 3) had not initiated Op. grandslam 4) follwowed simla agreement.

    this whole thing is enitirely pak fault
     
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    As usual, you have nothing to say but blabber. How about instead of shooting from backside you put up some facts that Muslims burned the train?
     
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    Just answer one simple question. Why India has deployed 800/900K armed forces in Kashmir?
     
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    Pak supported terrorism
     
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    Hogwash, utter nonsense.

    Kulbhushan Jadhav was caught red handed, so again, go and sale this old story somewhere else.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Mashallah, what you can say next.
     
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    PM wonders if intl community will find the moral courage to prevent 'genocide' in occupied Kashmir

    Prime Minister Imran Khan on Thursday questioned whether the global community would have the "moral courage" to stop a possible genocide from taking place in Indian-occupied Kashmir.

    Taking to Twitter a day after Pakistan expelled the Indian ambassador in protest over New Delhi's move to revoke occupied Kashmir's special status, the premier said the entire world was waiting to see what treatment the Indian authorities will mete out to Kashmirs once the crippling curfew imposed on them earlier this week is lifted.

    "Does the BJP govt think by using greater military force against Kashmiris in IOK, it will stop the freedom movement?" the prime minister asked, before the answering the question himself: "Chances are it will gain momentum."

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1498793/p...urage-to-prevent-genocide-in-occupied-kashmir




     
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    Struggling to find a person in Kashmir who sides with India today - Indian reporter

     
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    Thank you Modi for digging your own grave.
     
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    Modis actions might have just started a fire the Indians cannot control. To think all of this could have been avoided had the Azaad forces advanced to Poonch a few days before they did.
     
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    China to 'uphold justice for Pakistan' on Kashmir issue

    China has announced it will "uphold justice for Pakistan on the international arena" and that it supports the decision to approach the United Nations Security Council in the wake of India's decision to revoke Kashmir's special status.

    The foreign ministers of both countries held an urgent meeting in Beijing on Friday to discuss the current situation in occupied Kashmir following the move made by India earlier this week.

    A statement released by China's foreign ministry, said that it will "continue to support Pakistan in safeguarding its legitimate rights and interests".

    According to the statement, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi noted that China is "seriously concerned about the latest escalation of tensions in Kashmir".

    China also believes that unilateral actions "will complicate the situation" and should not be taken.

    It called on Pakistan and India to "properly resolve historical grievances, get rid of the zero-sum mindset, avoid unilateral action and seek a new path to peaceful coexistence".

    China recognises that the Kashmir dispute must be properly resolved "based on the UN Charter, relevant UN Security Council resolutions and bilateral agreement", said the statement.

    Following the meeting, in a video statement, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said that he had held a two-and-a-half hour long meeting with FM Yi.

    Qureshi said that FM Yi had remarked that the meeting had been "a very beneficial and timely" one.

    He said that FM Yi had told him that despite a busy schedule and the short notice, he was holding the meeting on the instructions of President Xi Jinping because "the nature of the relationship between Pakistan and China is different and the response level should also be different".

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    Chinese and Pakistani delegations pictured during a meeting held to discuss the escalating situation in occupied Kashmir. — Photo courtesy Shah Mahmood Qureshi Official Facebook


    "I am happy to share that I presented Pakistan's point of view and its concerns surrounding India's recent measures on occupied Kashmir," said Qureshi in the video statement.

    "China once more proved itself to be a trustworthy friend," he said, adding, "China completely supported Pakistan's stance on the matter."

    He went on to say that China agreed with Pakistan that India's actions are unilateral and that with the change in status of occupied Kashmir the region's stability and peace are in danger.

    "It was agreed that it was a disputed territory and still is — a fact which is also recognised by the UN — and the solution will have to be based on the resolutions outlined by the UN," said Qureshi.

    The foreign minister said he conveyed Pakistan's concerns that after the amendments to Kashmir's status, and after curfew restrictions are removed, "a new reign of oppression and barbarism may be enforced with which not only will further human rights violations occur but there is fear it will lead to further bloodshed".

    He said that FM Yi was informed that "there may be a response and to divert attention from the response, there might be another incident like Pulwama that takes place."

    Qureshi said that China will offer complete support in the decisions taken by the Pakistan government, including that of approaching the UN Security Council, and will continue its cooperation with Pakistan.

    "Our missions and ministries will maintain contact and exchange of views so that our approach and response is a joint one and we can move forward with full devotion in the matter."

    According to Radio Pakistan, the foreign minister was received by Pakistan's Ambassador to China Naghmana Hashmi on his arrival at the Beijing airport.

    He was then taken to the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse where he was warmly received by FM Yi.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1498966/china-to-uphold-justice-for-pakistan-on-kashmir-issue

     
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    On contrary, PML-N and their looney tunes were trying to give impression that Pakistan has been isolated and not doing enough on Kashmir issue.
     
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    Woh, this is some epic phainta to PML-N and their patwari's.
     
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    How else are they going to stir up Khalistan issue again?
     
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    We are not isolated but we don't have much options except for a military retaliation since the world is never concerned about such issues. They didn't care about Palestine either and so many others. It is a hypocrite world. In any case previously we use to help the Kashmir issue by using our proxies but now that the FATF is hounding us of financial penalties if we do that so we are out of that option aswell.
    So we are going to use diplomacy which is not really going to matter but we have to keep on doing this so because once the curfew lifts it is never going to be peace since even the Indian bot polisher kashmiris have now turned against them. We are using diplomacy for future inside t20s Arising in kashmir.
     
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    A new west bank is being created and Pakistani army and government have been completely annihilated on the tables.

    Useless
     
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    Damn FATF.

    How do you think Pak occupied Kashmir in the first place? Jinnah's use of proxies.
     
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    one apartheid state to an aspiring apartheid state:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...kot-arms-trade-jaish-e-mohammed-a8800076.html

    Israel is playing a big role in India’s escalating conflict with Pakistan

    When I heard the first news report, I assumed it was an Israeli air raid on Gaza. Or Syria. Airstrikes on a “terrorist camp” were the first words. A “command and control centre” destroyed, many “terrorists” killed. The military was retaliating for a “terrorist attack” on its troops, we were told.

    An Islamist “jihadi” base had been eliminated. Then I heard the name Balakot and realised that it was neither in Gaza, nor in Syria – not even in Lebanon – but in Pakistan. Strange thing, that. How could anyone mix up Israel and India?

    Well, don’t let the idea fade away. Two thousand five hundred miles separate the Israeli ministry of defence in Tel Aviv from the Indian ministry of defence in New Delhi, but there’s a reason why the usual cliche-stricken agency dispatches sound so similar.

    For months, Israel has been assiduously lining itself up alongside India’s nationalist BJP government in an unspoken – and politically dangerous – “anti-Islamist” coalition, an unofficial, unacknowledged alliance, while India itself has now become the largest weapons market for the Israeli arms trade.

    Not by chance, therefore, has the Indian press just trumpeted the fact that Israeli-made Rafael Spice-2000 “smart bombs” were used by the Indian air force in its strike against Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) “terrorists” inside Pakistan.

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    India was Israel’s largest arms client in 2017, paying £530m for Israeli air defence, radar systems and ammunition, including air-to-ground missiles – most of them tested during Israel’s military offensives against Palestinians and targets in Syria.

    Israel itself is trying to explain away its continued sales of tanks, weapons and boats to the Myanmar military dictatorship – while western nations impose sanctions on the government which has attempted to destroy its minority and largely Muslim Rohingya people. But Israel’s arms trade with India is legal, above-board and much advertised by both sides.

    The Israelis have filmed joint exercises between their own “special commando” units and those sent by India to be trained in the Negev desert, again with all the expertise supposedly learned by Israel in Gaza and other civilian-thronged battlefronts.
     
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    For nth time, why India is in Indian Occupied Kashmir, then it is recognized as international disputed territory. ANSWER THIS QUESTION FIRST.
     
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    Isreal things Kashmir is Philistine and perhaps urging idiot Indians to deploy same strategy. However, this will back fire very, very badly. I wouldnt be amaze if proxies will begin in IoK soon enough.
     
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    Why is Pak troops still in POK contrary to UN resolution? answer that first.

    Withdrawal of Pak troops from POK is the first step in the UN resolution? what si Pak waiting for? for 70 years?

    Here is Pak dumbass getting owned on the UN resolution

     
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    Indian troops fire live rounds to disperse thousands of protesters in Srinagar: Al Jazeera



    BBC VIDEO: Thousands protest in Srinagar, Indian Occupied Kashmir against abrogation of Article 370



    Reuters: Thousands protest in Kashmir (Srinagar) over new status despite clampdown

    Thousands protest in Kashmir over new status despite clampdown

    SRINAGAR (Reuters) - Police used tear gas and pellets to fight back at least 10,000 people protesting Delhi's withdrawal of special rights for Muslim-majority Jammu and Kashmir state in its main city of Srinagar on Friday, a police official and two witnesses said.

    The demonstration soon after Friday prayers was the largest since authorities locked down the revolt-torn region five days ago, cutting off telephone and internet services and detaining more than 500 political and separatist leaders.

    Seeking to tighten its grip on the region also claimed by neighbouring Pakistan, India this week scrapped Jammu and Kashmir's right to frame its own laws and allowed non-residents to buy property there.

    Regional leaders have warned of a backlash in the area, where militants have been fighting Indian rule for nearly 30 years, leading to the deaths of more than 50,000 people.

    A large group of people gathered in Srinagar's Soura area, a police officer said, in violation of orders that prohibit the assembly of more than four people.

    The crowd was pushed back by police at Aiwa bridge, where a witness said tear gas and pellets were used against them. "Some women and children even jumped into the water," a witness said at Srinagar’s Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences, where pellet victims were admitted.

    "They (police) attacked us from two sides," another witness said. The police officer said 12 people had been admitted to two hospitals in the city after receiving pellet injuries at Soura, taking the total injured in the protests this week to at least 30.

    "There were around 10,000 people at the protest in Soura," the police officer said. "This was the biggest so far."

    Thousands of extra paramilitary police were deployed across Kashmir just before the sweeping measures were announced on Monday to prevent large-scale protests.

    Addressing the nation on Thursday, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said he had acted in Kashmir to help develop the region and that he hoped it would lead to investment and more job opportunities.

    His Hindu nationalist-led party has long campaigned for abrogating Kashmir's special privileges in the constitution, which it sees as an appeasement to Muslims and a hindrance to its own development.

    An Indian foreign ministry spokesman, Raveesh Kumar, played down the unrest, which he suggested was temporary.

    "Just outside Srinagar things have really come back to normal," he said.

    Kumar added, "People are going about their business, vehicles are plying normally. If we are confident of maintaining the law and order, I think those restrictions will be relaxed, I'm quite sure."


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    But the police officer, who requested anonymity since he is not authorised to speak to the media, said that political detentions in the wake of the Modi government's decision to revoke Kashmir's special rights were continuing.

    "Over 500 people are now arrested since Sunday," he said, including former chief ministers, ministers, lawmakers and leaders and workers from political parties and separatist groups.

    Modi's party and even some top opposition leaders have welcomed the decision to absorb Kashmir fully into India, and it has brought him support across the country.

    Within Kashmir, officials are hoping anger will die down. On Friday, they eased restrictions to allow residents to offer prayers in neighbourhood mosques and said they were making arrangements for Eid, that falls on Monday.

    The top administrative official of the Kashmir Valley, Baseer Khan, said that essential commodities including food, grains and meat, would be trucked into villages by Sunday.

    Khan also said authorities would set up public phone booths covering every district, since communications lines have been severed by the government anticipating widespread protests.

    "More than 300 phone booths will be established in a day or two at landmark points," he said.

    Khan added that all medical services in the valley were working normally, although when Reuters visited two major hospitals and a smaller facility, officials said that doctors and staff were having difficulties reaching work.

    Arch-rival Pakistan, which lays claims to Kashmir, has downgraded diplomatic ties with India and suspended trade in anger at its latest move.

    On Friday, senior Chinese diplomat Wang Yi said China was gravely concerned about the situation in Kashmir, the cause of two of three wars between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan.

    Wang met Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi in Beijing and assured him that China would continue to support Pakistan to safeguard its legitimate rights and interests, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    https://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idINKCN1UZ0OO
     
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    Don't waste your time with these hypocrites.

    They have no problems when USA kills Muslims through drone attacks on their land. They have no problems when China wipes out Uighur Muslims, and tortures them to an extent that they are put in concentration camps, are not allowed to grow a beard, are not allowed to be named Mohammed, cannot fast on Ramadan. Their kiraye ki tattoo phauj is helping the Saudis kill millions of Muslims in Yemen. They never uttered a squeak when their almighty phauj killed 3 million Bangladeshi Muslims in one of history's biggest genocides. They help the Taliban kill Afghani Muslims. Their buzdil army opens fire at peaceful Pashtuns. Amhadiya, Baloch and Muhajir Muslims are getting raped and killed in their own land.

    But somehow their heart melts for Kashmiri Muslims. This is a chooran their phauj has successfully sold to their awaam, because their existence itself depends on having a core issue.

    I don't blame them though, because whoever dares to ask a question will disappear. But the Pakistani folks staying at their cozy homes in the UK and contributing to the Kashmir "cause" by engaging their keyboards could have done much more.

    If wishes were horses..
     
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