Babar Azam is a selfish player (Ramiz's analysis on Babar's 100 - upd#24)

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  1. Del
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    Sorry I have to say it, after watching how he has been playing selfishly for his 100 and hurting team's cause.

    Its poor Hafeez is who playing his first game after a long break and trying to hit boundaries.

    I am looking respect day by day for Bobby darling - Shame on your Babar !!!

    And I know, this thread will touch never of many posters but who cares.
     
  2. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    Usually don't agree with you but today it's blatantly clear. He's not playing well enough.

    Unless of course this is a 320 pitch, which it's not.
     
  3. Pakistanalltheway
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    I haven't watched enough of him to be decided either way but messing around on cricinfo shows that in winning games vs the top teams he averages 86.It is only a sample of 21 games though.
     
  4. Del
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    We are not in early 2000 any more where you're allowed to play 50 overs, this is so old school. You come, play 15/20 balls, rotate strike and start hitting. EVERYBODY needs power hitting in this era.

    Also, you need to be hitting from get-go, because we dont have luxury of power-hitters down the order.
     
  5. s_h_a_f
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    s_h_a_f Tracer Bullet

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    Pakistani fans are never pleased.

    This is Babar’s game. He is not Buttler.
     
  6. Del
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    Bro, did you even watch him play today?
     
  7. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    He was on 80 from 78 balls after 28 overs. Ended up making his 100 off 104 balls in the 38 over.

    That's 20 runs off 26 balls, strike rate of 77 at such a crucial stage, just to get his hundred.
     
  8. s_h_a_f
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    I disagree

    The problem in this lineup today are Malik & Hafeez- they are not fit for this so called modern cricket. Fakhar/Babar set the base. These two selfish cricketers came in and started prodding the ball around for singles. If you look around in International cricket they are the only remaining cricketers from early 2000’s.
     
  9. Del
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    Checkout their SR.

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  10. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    The guy with the highest strike rate and the guy with the most sixes are the problem lol ok
     
  11. Patriot
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    At least he scored runs

    You also have to keep in mind that both teams are not looking to win the series that’s not the priority

    Getting settled in these conditions prior to the world cup is the main objective
     
  12. Energy
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    Babar did play selfishly in his 80s and 90s. Started to make up for it in his last two overs but got out.

    BUT. We need Babar and he is our most important batsman. Losing Imam early if one of him or Fakhar would have given their wicket there would be no platform.
     
  13. Fireworks11
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    Fireworks11 Kaptaan

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    He is the core of the batting line up. Provides comfort to the top order. He scored a century at a run a ball, room for improvement of course but not drastic by any means.
     
  14. iZeeshan
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    el oh el
     
  15. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    Problem is not Babar neither Hafeez or Malik. Problem is our bowling & fielding. Giving Roy chance in every damn game. Give any decent lineup 340 and they will defend it 9 out of 10 times.
     
  16. Mohammed Bilal
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    Babar should be selfish in Tests not Odis.
     
  17. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Pakistani batting is generally and traditionally weak.

    We do NOT have batsmen who are versatile enough to increase or decrease their run rate as per the match situation.

    Unfortunately, we do need at least one "tuk tuk" player in the top/middle order, to play the anchor role and hold the innings together, otherwise, you can't cross 180 in 50 overs.
     
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  18. Mohammed Bilal
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    You guys need to stop overreacting tho. 362, 358, 340 are massive scores no matter what the pitch. Bowling has also not let us down but game awareness and fielding. By using our brains in each match atleast we could have saved 10 runs and scored 10 more and that's what makes the difference. We could have been 2-1 up in the series.

    Babar should be selfish in Tests. In Odis the game has changed considerably so 300 is no longer a match wining total but 375-400 is what's needed. It's a massive improvement from 2016 this tour.
     
  19. Passionate Pakistani
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    Whats the guarantee that bowlers would have defended 400 if babar had been more aggressive ??

    Yes it is an issue but least of our worry. As @ASLI-PATHAN you would back your bowlers to defend 350 nine out of 10 times irrespective of the pitch as there is scorecard pressure as well when chasing a big target.

    But our shaheens failed two games in a row.

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  20. MNA
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    Guy scored a century, and he is declared selfish, whilst the second highest score was only 59.
     
  21. BuccalSingh
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    Can any batter play such an innings and survive in teams like Eng,Aus and India?Will those team management are ever going to tolerate such a players? People here are just focusing on the match result and are forgetting that Babar has played such selfish innings before and has openly said that he doesn't need power play if he can be at the top of ranking without it. So apparently just ranking and personal milestone is what interests Babar.
    Our bowlers will eventually come good in the WC, but selfish approach from batters like Babar and a couple others will lead us to loose most matches in WC.
     
  22. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Sachin has played such selfish innings all his life - what are you talking about?
     
  23. BuccalSingh
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    And when? cricket has changed since then, 275-300 used to be enough then, but now even a score of 350 is not enough.Give me an example of current indian,aus or english player who just plays for his ton? and if there were any and such was the culture there, their team would be at the bottom of the table and not on top.
     
  24. Del
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    All those who are praising Babar's century, should listen the following. For nth time, we're not living in 90's anymore.

     
  25. Mohammed Bilal
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    Let's see how he plays tomorrow.
     
  26. Bilal123
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    Give most decent bowlers 350 and they take pitch out of equation. They bowl yorkers, slower balls, bouncers and get batsmen out!
    These guys bowl length on leg stump 3 out of 6 balls an over. Give away boundary per over. Absolute trash over last 3 games
     
  27. godzilla
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    first time I can remember that I agree with Rambo.
     
  28. MNA
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    Ditto!
     
  29. Dare2Dream
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    In spite of the flak he gets on forums, he actually does pretty good analysis.
     
  30. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Match awareness and lack of intelligence is pretty common among our players, and our bowlers are no exception to this.
     
  31. Inswinger
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    I didn't realize Babar had the likes of Sharma, Dhawan, Roy, Bairstow, Butler, Warner, Finch, etc around him.

    Don't know why people compare our batting with those other teams. Babar does his job but doesn't have impact players around him to do their job.
     
  32. Prince Pathan
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    I have been saying this for 2 odd years now
     
  33. Prince Pathan
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    Prince Pathan Sultan of Swing

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    Fakhar most important, if he doesnt get going and we dont score big often enough then
     
  34. Mohammed Bilal
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  35. mohsin88ali
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    EXACTLY.

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  36. Del
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  37. godzilla
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    he can be selfish as far as im concerned as long as he is the only one of the eleven batting. I would take a selfish 100 over a selfless 10.
     
  38. Fireworks11
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    Fireworks11 Kaptaan

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    Bang on.
     
  39. Bilal123
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    This "selfish" approach is still pretty rapid compared to the Misbah era
     
  40. Ahson8
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    Ahson8 Sultan of Swing

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    Lmao stop it, if Babar played the ind of innings Shaidi did and ended up on the losing side, you'd be all over him like a rash
     

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