yep, ive spoken to mates who grew up in paris and the way they mention the outer city ghettos rings a bell with me. hackney at the time was a predominantly black and bengali neighbourhood in terms of immigrant communities, crime was rife, it was dilapidated, but somehow the people just got on with their lives. i dont want to sound like a bleeding heart but that neighborhood, that area, the people are gone. completely gentrified, for the objective betterment of the city, but it feels like a part of my history has been erased, i havn't been back for a very long time. thats why i get back to the original topic, why im in favour of grammer schools, theres one literally 10 min car ride away from where i live now, not an up market area by any means, but the kids at that school tend to do really well because if they are clever enough to get in they have a huge advantage living in the school catchment area. every borough, or area deserves that imho.