Can we drop Hassan Ali against India and play Shaheen and Hasnain?

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  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    We will need 4 pacers against India. However, Hassan seems to be down in pace right now. So question is can we drop Hassan against India and pick Shaheen and Hasnain. Below is my lineup for game against India:

    1. Hafeez
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Malik
    5. Sarfraz
    6. Asif
    7. Shadab
    8. Wahab
    9. Amir
    10. Shaheen
    11. Hasnain
    Bowling chart:

    Amir 5 Hasnain 4 1-9
    Shaheen 4 Wahab 4 10-17
    Shadab 7 Hafeez 4 Malik 2 18-30
    Amir 3 Hasnain 3 31-36
    Shaheen 3 Wahab 3 37-42
    Shadab 3 Wahab 1 Amir 1 43-47
    Wahab 2 Amir 1 48-50

    Amir 10 Wahab 10 Shadab 10
    Shaheen 7 Hasnain 7
    Hafeez 4 Malik 2

    I have selected 4 pacers cus India traditionally struggles against pace bowling.
     
  2. Shahzad.Firdous
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    This lineup will bowl India out below 200 agar na out ho to mera naam badal dena @SwingNSeam
     
  3. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Inzamam ko duayein do squad zabardast select kiya hai just like CT!!
     
  4. Mohammed Bilal
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    They're not ready yet. Hassan need a to get his act together. Atleast he needs to take 1-2 Wickets
     
  5. Shahzad.Firdous
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    His pace is down. If he bowls with that new ball, India will get a soft start and all india need is a start. Once they get off to a start, they will be tough to beat! So, its important we have someone like Hasnain partnering Amir who can bowl with some lively pace so that batsmen cant go after him. If you are able to pakrofy india early and dont let them off the hook, then india will crumble under pressure!! With Hasnain, you have right arm left arm combo as well, Woh Hassan mein bhi hai but Hassan is seriously lacking in pace to bowl with that new ball!!
     
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    Idea.burra nahi hai depending on if the pitch has something in it for the pacers?

    Place a deep square leg, and a deep midwiicket and bowl short and aim their noses. They will crap out pretty soon.

    But if you bowl them length balls outside the off stump, they will keep hitting you for boundaries with closed eyes.
     
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  9. Mohammed Bilal
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    I'm not type that like hyping bench players but that's mostly for batsman. Imagine If Pakistan had Haris Rauf, Shinwari and Umer Khan. Batting is good enough but 350 you cannot make every game. Killer attack. Rauf swings new ball, got good bouncer, pace and has a mean yorker. Shinwari lad on his day can run through any batting line up and Umer Khan is back up spinner. I'm really excited about Pakistan in coming 2-4 years. In Tests though pay attention please. If only we can somehow convince professor to play next world cup. Salman Agha, Ifti chacha or Hussain Talat can try to replace Hafeez. Saad Ali and Usman Salahuddin are test players. In coming time we need to include two adept strikers which will be difficult. Maybe Saud Shakeel can come in at 5, give a few overs and his batting is on attacking side.
     
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    No
    Dobara mat pochna:mad:
     
  11. KingOfDoosra
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    Criticised him a lot recently but he bowled well in the last game despite being wicketless
     
  12. Dare2Dream
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    Hasnain should be considered but perhaps ease him in against easier sides
     
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    Leave Amir, Hassan and Wahab lineup the same. They will deal with Indian batsmen. Won't be able to get a decent total vs this lineup.

    If Amir doesn't get the top 3, I see Hassan doing so
     
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    Keep the same line up. Hassan never got wicket but he managed to keep run rate stable. Shaheen has been way too expensive, Shows he's aT20 plyer. Hasnain too early to land him against India, It can back fire. Let stick with the winning combination. On top of that, Hassan Ali can bat.
     
  15. s_h_a_f
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    There are no easy sides at this WC
     
  16. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shaheen has been expensive with that new ball plus dont want to see two left armers open the bowling. I want Hasnain to partner Amir with the new ball and Shaheen and Wahab to bowl with semi new cherry!!
     
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    I like ur idea and think Shaheen is a MUST as india struggles against left hander, and also coz they haven't faced shaheen yet.However if you include hasnain too, then we only have 6 batters in the team as Shadab hardly bats.
    If such a bold approach is taken, then Malik should be preferred over asif ali, so that we have 6 proper batters in the team.
     
  18. Shahzad.Firdous
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    We will have to take some bold moves if we have to win against a team like India. I have both Malik and Asif in my team and I have Hafeez opening the batting:

    1. Hafeez
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Malik
    5. Sarfraz
    6. Asif
    7. Shadab
    8. Wahab
    9. Amir
    10. Shaheen
    11. Hasnain
    Hasnain and Shaheen can both hold the bat. Infact in the last odi in odi series with England, they shared a 40+ partnership for last wicket and carried Pakistan total to 297#

    This is the reason why I wanted Fahim Ashraf and Junaid to be part of the squad in place of Shaheen and Hasnain. Fahim Ashraf cus he is an allrounder and Junaid to cover for other pacers lack of performance or injury!!
     
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    Sending me PMs and then ignoring when I reply. Ok then
     
  20. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Yaar telegraph kahan se download karon whatsapp per ajao bhai!
     
  21. Shahzad.Firdous
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    India struggles anything its good pace bowling and I think these guys can produce it in the same manner Mohd Irfan produced it on Dec 2012 tour of India./ He was drafted in and he bowled with some fire and we won that series against india!!
     
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    weird thread title.
    You want to drop off one player and play two players to replace him?
     
  23. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Imam ul Haq bhi drop hoga obv.
     
  24. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Hopefully, permanently.
     
  25. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    Man you have the worst ideas. Why are you opening with Hafeez when you already know he can't play there and just scored 84 off 62 at 5. Seriously man, get it together.
     
  26. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Bhai to phir Malik se open karwa lo~ One of Hafeez or Malik has to open as I am not satisfied with Imam right now!!
     
  27. s_h_a_f
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    Man you have lost the plot. Malik can’t even bat at 6 and you want him to open lmao.
     
  28. iZeeshan
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    You can't just make someone else open because you feel like it. Opening is a serious position and that's why there are specialists for that position.
     
  29. Shahzad.Firdous
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    It is only for this match as we need pacers to bowl to indian batsmen and get them out! Agar Imad Wasim khelta hai he will be taken to cleaners!!
     
  30. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Hafeez and Shoaib Malik cant bowl 10 overs to india like they can do to England cus England dont play spin as well as india whereas india struggles against pace than spin! Strategy is designed according to opposition. This is the reason why I wanted Fahim and Junaid in place of Shaheen and Hasnain as those two cant bat whereas Junaid maybe cover for frontline pacers and Fahim is supposedly an allrounder!!
     
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    Faheem can't bat.

    Shaheen is a front line pacer and is better than Junaid.
     
  32. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shaheen is in poor form atm!!
     
  33. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Play the same 11 that won against England then!!
     
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    The 11 that played against England is the best available playing 11 right now. That is my considered opinion after alot of consideration!!
     
  35. Mohammed Bilal
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    Malik would be terrible.
     
  36. Mohammed Bilal
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    I don't like Imam but he's a good batsman for Pakistani standards. Don't complain when we are 105 all out. He's been given a job. Getting to 340 is massive. Once a platform is built Babar is good enough to make sure we get 300 atleast then Asif, Hafeez and others play quicker. Nothing wrong as of yet with Imam 75 sr as long as he gets 40-50. It gives us a start.
     
  37. Mohammed Bilal
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    Pakistan would be lethal with Shinwari and Haris Rauf.
     
  38. Shahzad.Firdous
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    I like Imam so much~ He is such a good opener in my opinion~ Imam Fakhar jori is like Saeed Anwar Aamir Sohail but problem is you need all of Hafeez, Malik (cus he has a good record against india plus damaad factor), Asif (for big hitting), Sarfraz (cus Captain and keeper), Fakhar and Babar plus I need an extra pacer so how I am going to accommodate Imam? Thats the question~ Only solution is keeping the same playing 11 that played against England or drop Malik for Imad. I would go for same 11 as against England and I think Hafeez and Malik maybe good enough to bowl 10 overs between them against India too. They have done it in the past as well so no reason why they cant do it again~~
     
  39. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    I think I have the same sentiments.

    Hafeez statated in a press conference that he wants to open. So, why not?
    Either he or Malik can open and I have no issue with it.

    We SURELY need the left hand right hand combination in the opening to disrupt the fielders, and force the bowlers to continuously change and adjust their line and length.
     
  40. Shahzad.Firdous
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    I think imad might play next few matches n malik will be the one missing out unfortunately.
    1. Imam
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Hafeez
    5. Sarfraz
    6. Asif
    7. Imad
    8. Shadab
    9. Wahab
    10. Hassan
    11. Amir
     

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