Cherish Misbah

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  1. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

    May 22, 2012
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    And I asked you to remove the minnows because we have played far too many.

    And don't tell me it made no sense. You didn't bother to understand it.

    In the last two years, take Misbah and Umars average and SR. Use the following equation: Average*0.5SR and see who comes out on top.
     
  2. ComradeVenom
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    Umar and Misbah make a good combination at the crease. Most of Umars good innings have came with Misbah batting with him and guiding him. The argument that Umar is being limited by Misbah is a flawed one.

    Look at this fine knock where they both made scores in the 70s and Pakistan won the match chasing.

    Again the team was 3/33 when Misbah came in but because he got support from Umar who played well Misbah was also able to bat aggressively. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/535796.html

    Here is what Cricinfo had to say The calmness of Misbah and exuberance of Akmal combined well to ensure that Pakistan crossed the finish line before the 40th over, which gained them a bonus point.

    Another one where they combined well and got Pakistan over the line. Misbah calmly took the back seat while Umar expressed himself. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/530431.html

    Here is what cricinfo said on this occasion
    Umar often left his crease to get to the pitch of the ball and comfortably kept the runs flowing. Misbah, on the other hand, opted to play from the crease, sweeping, reverse-sweeping, shuffling from one side to the other restlessly but effectively and keeping the required-rate under control throughout.

    Obviously this can't be solely attributed to Misbah but it does show that they work well together. Cricket is a game of partnerships and subtleties too.
     
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  3. Major
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    lmao....

    you clearly have got no idea of cricket....

    you play you'r best batsmen at 1 and 2 down.. lol at haris playing at 1 down... And moving the innings builder highest scorer misbah where? at no.5 or 7?
     
  4. PakistanZindabad!
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  5. PakistanZindabad!
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    PakistanZindabad! Cornered Tiger

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    We all know Misbah can finish.
     
  6. Major
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    Major Cornered Tiger

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    what does this equation tell... plz explain that... I know some numbers will come up...

    is this some random number thing you're doing, but dont know what it means, but as umar akmal comes on top you're happy?

    explain me what is this....
     
  7. Top Spinner
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    *Quality post*
     
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  8. Major
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    true... Cricket is a game of partnerships, and what our team lacks i partnerships, which is why we lost some important games.... Umar akmal and Misbah bat together very good no doubt, but i dont understand whats with these umar akmal fans, who would do anything to make umar akmal look good.... THey would bash their own players to make him look good...
     
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  9. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    It's a stat that exhibits a combination of average and SR and spits out a number to rank batsman not just on average or SR.
     
  10. Major
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    lol... yeah so that when the collapse happen, he could revive us from 50-4.... and then still whine that he is slow...
     
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    Heres a match I remember when Misbah failed and the collapse was made worse with his dismissal. How did Junior play?

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/531633.html 50 runs from 97 balls because the team had collapsed and they needed saving.Its quite a simple point that people fail to grasp. When your team is stranded somebody has to get stuck in.
     
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  12. Major
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    captain obvious i know the number that will come out will be a combination of the batsmen average and strike rate, could you be more precise, or just admit you you're self dont know what you are doing, and just because umar akmal comes as no.1, you're think it means something and are satisfied with it...
     
  13. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    What do you mean what else do you want to know?

    It's a stat that I've often seen used to compare batsmen. I do know what I'm doing. But I don't think you do when you post.
     
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    i remember this game, umar akmal fans blamed Misbah for it :lol

    but it shows that what a player needs to do to revive.. One end needs to bat slow while the other needs to attack, this is what umar akmal and Afridi did in that match....

    Had Misbah done the same thing, he still would had been bashed....
     
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    Major Cornered Tiger

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    for gods sake, please explain this properly, or just admit that you you're self dont know what you're doing..
     
  16. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

    Jun 2, 2012
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    Misbah teray jaan nisar..Beshumar beshumar. :p
     
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  17. Major
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    tommarow, you might start multiplying their averages by the number of their boundaries, and say hey look, i dont know what i just did, but umar akmal is at top in something... :lol
     
  18. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    What the hell do you want me to explain? Or how about you just admit you don't know how to respond so you're acting like I don't know what I'm doing.
     
  19. Express Pace
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    Express Pace Cornered Tiger

    May 11, 2012
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    There is Misbah hate, and there is Misbah hate.
     
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    Through peaceful dialogue not one Misbah hater will be left on this site. They will either join us or run away like Afridi from test captaincy ( mentioning no names here)
     
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  21. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

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    Haters gonna hate while Misbah make records and wins games for Pakistan.
     
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    Umars partnership record with Misbah. Almost 60% of his career runs scored with Misbah at the crease.
     
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  23. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    Let's take a step back - would you say it's fair to compare two batsmen purely on their average?
     
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  25. Major
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    yeh, but only if both batsmen have played enough number of games. Average shows the number of runs that a batsmen score per game...
     
  26. Major
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    after the younis and yosuf combo, i think the misbah and younis combo was very good.
     
  27. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

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    Tbh i think our youngsters needed Yousuf but now that he is gone we must settle with Misbah and Younis.
     
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  28. ComradeVenom
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    Anyway I humbly postulate that the argument that Misbah is detrimental to Umars career has been blown out of the water. I don't know if you guys agree with me.
     
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  29. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

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    Song dedicated to his haters by Misbah.

     
  30. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    Then how do you compare two players like Misbah and Umar fairly? Umar bats at 6, Misbah bats 4. Misbah bats at snails pace, Umar score runs quite quickly.

    It definitely isn't fair to just compare them on average.
     
  31. Major
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    i dont even think that there is a need to even compare them, you're the on who brings this up...
     
  32. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    There is a need to compare them because I keep hearing that Misbah is the best batsman in the team, and I disagree.
     
  33. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

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    Averages 44.48 now.
     
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  34. Pakistanalltheway
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    Pakistanalltheway Smooth Operator

    Jul 16, 2012
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    that's cool but I would rather have someone with a lower average but is a match winner .
     
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  35. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

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    Another 50.
     
  36. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

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    I will repeat again.

    Cherish Misbah.
     
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  37. Express Pace
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    Another great knock, what a player. MOTM.
     
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  38. ComradeVenom
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    ComradeVenom Tracer Bullet

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    Behave. Motm and MotS and you guys still moan. Have some shame.
     
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  39. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    Good knock today, but still not a match winner.
     
  40. Saj
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    Saj Formerly Saj001

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    yeah out of 29 fifties 22 match winning fifties. Still not a match winner.
     
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