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Could you blame Afridi for loss in 2011 world cup?

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  1. Wistful Reminisces
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    Lols, jealous much? :)
     
  2. XYZ
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    If that is the case, then every Misbah innings has been exactly the same "team plan" since Mohali.
     
  3. Passionate Pakistani
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    Afridi also said Misbah becharay se shotay nahi lagi ..

    Talk about selective posting to validate his own point lol.
     
  4. CricketFan96
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    :) :whiteflag
     
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    But the issue is that Afridi-critics will not stop short of comparing his batting to the likes of Inzamam, Yousuf, Younis and other top of the line specialist batsmen and also compare his bowling with the likes of Murali and Warne.

    What fans need to remember is that as an ODI batsman, Afridi is only comparable to the likes of Wasim Akram, Kapil Dev, Chris Carins, Shaun Pollock, Kamran Akmal, Moin Khan and Ian Botham. Even Wasim Akram batted with an average of 16.52.


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    As an ODI bowler, he seems to be in the league of Harbhajan, Mushtaq Ahmed, Kumble and Vettori.

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    Let's not expect him to be Imran Khan who could bat like any top class batsman and bowl better than any top class bowler.
     
  6. Captain
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    let me help you... afridi thinks (well not too much) and says he is a bowler, who can give you bonus outings... Pakistan thinks he is a Legendary batsman who could on the odd day bowl a wee bit...

    think of afridi as a remote control.... it will work on your tv if you try to use it that way, and you will be pleased... but if you try to work it on your wife/gf.... you will be disappointed...
     
  7. Reverse Swing
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    Everything seems bad in hindsight if things don't go well.
     
  8. Wistful Reminisces
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    Aren't these guys way better at bowling?
     
  9. XYZ
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    Absolutely! I was just comparing their batting with Afridi.

    I hope you are not saying that if Afridi bowled like Akram, it was fine for him to have a batting average of 16.52 but since Afridi bowls only like Vettori (batting average 17.15), Mushtaq (9.50), Kumble (10.37) and Harbhjan (13.25) therefore he should be hanged in public for having batting average of 23.44?
     
  10. Wistful Reminisces
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    Vettori's more in the team for his E/R than bowling average, which is way better than Afridi.
     
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    Pakistan should have let Tendulkar score a hundred and they would have won
     
  12. XYZ
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    Are you guessing that Vettori is in the team because of the E/R or you read a statement from NZ selectors?

    As far as your comment about Vettori's E/R (4.11) being way better than Afridi's (4.62) is concerned, let me give you their one match (10 over) bowling analysis based on their career average, S/R and E/R.

    Afridi: 10-0-46-1.4
    Vettori: 10-0-41-1.3

    Afridi gives 5 extra runs in a 10 over spell (one ODI) but takes 0.1 more wicket than Vettori.

    Can you we conclude that there is not much of a difference between the two in terms of bowling?
     
  13. Wistful Reminisces
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    One is the best spinner his country has ever produced.......

    And that .1 is extremely misleading, let's just post averages, shall we?
    32.8 vs 31

    Vettori's is actually better :shrug
     
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    Vettori is best spinner for NZ because NZ never produced spinners like Saqlain, Ajmal, Qadir and Qasim. If Pakistan did not have Saqlain, Ajmal, Qadir and Qasim, then Afridi would have been best ODI spinner for Pakistan like Vettori is for NZ.


    How?

    I did already.
    Afridi: 10-0-46-1.4
    Vettori: 10-0-41-1.3

    46 runs divided by 1.4 wickets = Ave of 32.8
    41 runs divided by 1.3 wickets = Ave of 31.5

    I did not say Afridi is better than Vettori, Kumble, Mushtaq and Harbhajan. Here is what I said in the post above;


    "As an ODI bowler, he seems to be in the league of Harbhajan, Mushtaq Ahmed, Kumble and Vettori."

    In the league, not better.
     
  15. Passionate Pakistani
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    Afridi is way better than Vettori ..as a bowler ..as a batsman .. As an allrounder .. And as a match winner.

    And yeah a better odi bowler than Harbhajan,Kumble and all other Tom **** & Harry.

    Stop being so defensive XYZ

    As i mentioned in another thread stats aren't everything.. People reading stats after 15-20 years will think that Misbah is a better odi batsman than Saeed and Inzy while in real he isn't even half of them.
     
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    This is your opinion and I highly respect that.

    Let's not try to tell other people what to post or how to post, unless they post something highly offensive or obscene.

    I don't believe I was being defensive, but even if I was, I think being defensive is much better than being offensive for no apparent reasons. :) Don't you think?
     
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    we lost cause of Misbah and we will not win the 2015 world cup unless misbah is dropped. Afridi for captain!!
     

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