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Create a Pakistan team from the players who didn't play in the World Cup

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  1. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    One question that my friends kept asking me over and over again during the World Cup was regarding missing players. They would say we know about the 3 who are banned but where's Malik, where's Rana, where's Yousuf, where's Nazir, etc.

    It got me to thinking. How good would a team can we make from all the missing players? Please choose a playing XI that doesn't include Butt, Asif and Aamer or any of the World Cup squad. The WC squad was...

    Shahid Afridi, Misbah-ul-Haq, Mohammad Hafeez, Ahmed Shehzad, Kamran Akmal, Younus Khan, Asad Shafiq, Umar Akmal, Abdul Razzaq, Abdur Rehman, Saeed Ajmal, Shoaib Akhtar, Wahab Riaz, Umar Gul, Junaid Khan.

    Also you can consider Malik and Rana. So what's your XI?
     
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    I decided to stick with players who've played for Pakistan and see what I could come up with...

    Imran Nazir - Nazir as always would be hit and miss but considering how deep this team bats, he's a risk worth taking.

    Nasir Jamshed - Nasir has been dismissed without getting a real chance. I know his fitness is suspect but he's a real batting talent. If Nazir fails, Jamshed will get them.

    Azhar Ali - Since the opening pair is so explosive you need someone like Azhar to steady the ship. Plus Azhar's domestic record in one day games is brilliant.

    Shoaib Malik (c) - Love him or loathe him, when he's in form he's one of the best ODI batsmen in the world.

    Mohammad Yousuf - Is he past it or isnt he? I think he still has a year left in him.

    Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk) - A wicketkeeper who can bat, not slog but actually bat. Many people think he should be stood in Mo Salman's shoes right now.

    Rana Naved - These days Rana is good enough to bat at 7, he's one of the best death bowlers in the world and if the new ball is moving then say goodbye to your openers. But is his fitness still up to standard?

    Mansoor Amjad - Every team needs a legspinner, it's a shame Imran Tahir was wasted but let's not do the same to Mansoor. Also he can hit it big and is a proper all-rounder

    Mohammad Talha - Fastest bowler left in Pakistan cricket and can hit the ball well too

    Sohail Khan - Second fastest bowler in Pakistan cricket and deserves a chance

    Mohammad Irfan - Didn't have the best of debuts but a near 7 foot fast bowler bowling in the 80s deserves another go. Let's see what he's like without jetlag and cramp
     
  3. Saqlain Doosra
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    Saqlain Doosra Youngsta Beauty

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    I agree with Merc's team
     
  4. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    No place for Farhat, Taufeeq, Amin, Adnan, Zoni, Hammad?
     
  5. Saqlain Doosra
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    Saqlain Doosra Youngsta Beauty

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    Taufeeq and Farhat is big no no. Only player I would possibly repalce from that team is Mansoor with kaneria, I feel Kaneria is far better bowler but I do hope Mansoor is given chance in future. Rest from your list are still unproven and pretty sure will/are or might get a chance to prove themselves.

    Just remember my on of my fav little player which Fawad should replace Azhar Ali. Fawad is lot more effective ODI player and would have him ahead of Azhar in that team.
     
  6. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    I totally forgot about Fawad. He has to be there somewhere.
     
  7. Omar
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    Omar Cricistan Moderator

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    Merc, I got to say that you've put up a pretty decent ODI squad out of the players that weren't chosen for the WC - Like Saqlain mentioned about Fawad ahead of Azhar, I agree with that reason being is that I'd want Azhar just to concentrate on tests for a good year or 2 as he's still pretty new in it and has a long way to go and IA am sure he'll have that No.3 spot for himself for quite a long time ofcourse if he continues to focus himself and puts in the hardwork into it.

    As going for his List A record which is pretty good I'd also want to see him playing ODI cricket just as Trott is doing for England and doing it quite well even Azhar can make that No.3 spot in ODI's his own but for now Shafiq is trying to grasp the opportunities that are given to him to secure that place for himself for a few years to come...But hopefully we should see Azhar featuring in the ODI kit for Pakistan one day IA.
     
  8. Saqlain Doosra
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    Saqlain Doosra Youngsta Beauty

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    Yeah and I still think they should pick him for team once he has got some good performance in domestic competition.
     
  9. Boi
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    Boi Emerging Player

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    Imran Nazir - If he had been given the same amount of chances AND confidence that was given to Hafeez by Afridi and the management, I'm sure he would put up a better show than what his averages suggest.

    Azhar Ali - I would've liked to see him in the WC squad, but it wasn't to be - good solid batsmen to accompany a flashy Nazir up top.

    Mohammad Yousuf - A class act and still has alot to offer. I've always believed that he was best to bat at number 3, shame he never put his hand up for that role.

    Fawad Alam - It was a shame that he wasn't in the WC squad, mainly due to the fact that he was played at positions that didn't suit him - much better suited at number 4 where he can nurdle the ball around.

    Shoaib Malik - Hate to say it, but he is a decent ODI batsmen and would have a great time on the flat decks in Asia.

    Hammad Azam - Good finisher, proved it several times in domestic and junior cricket - world cup could've been a good stage to show his worth.

    Sarfraz Ahmed - Don't know about his batting credentials but hes rated highly by most to be the best keeper in the country; and it would've been nice to have a keeper at the world cup who could catch. :)

    Mansoor Amjad - Same reasons as Merc.

    Yasir Arafat - A tragedy that he hasn't been given a consistent run in the side ever since he made his debut, sometimes due to injury but mostly due to incompetent selectors - hard working and promising cricketer who would give his all every single time.

    Mohammad Talha - Same reasons as Merc.

    Aizaz Cheema - Solid domestic record and seems to have some pace about him too. Shame he didn't get a chance earlier on in his career.

    Reserves: Raza Hasan, Nasir Jamshed, Mohammad Irfan and Umar Amin

    That's a solid combination imo; batting is very deep and the bowling has plenty of variety and around 6/7 options for the captain, whoever that may be. :D
     
  10. Omar
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    Omar Cricistan Moderator

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    Even Boi has stringed together a good looking line up with the likes of Arafat who from time to time has been harshly treated by PCB and then also he's got Cheema there who was unlucky to have not been with the squad in the Caribbean right now due to some injury.
     
  11. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    @boi

    that's a really good line-up except for the fact that MoYo refuses to bat at 3, so you're already causing yourself a headache by slotting him in at that position.
     
  12. Pakistan97
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    Pakistan97 Tracer Bullet

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    whats with khalid latif,shahzaib hasan and yasir arafat?
     
  13. sohaib-789
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    sohaib-789 Emerging Player

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    1. Nasir Jamshed
    2. Imran Nazir
    3. Umar Amin
    4. Shoaib Malik
    5. Mohammed Yousuf
    6. Humayun farhat (WK)
    7.Yasir Arafat
    8. Rana Naved
    9. Yasir Shah
    10. Rao Iftikar
    11. Raza Hasan
     
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    Sixer Emerging Player

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    Merc your saying you would take Imran Nazir because you bat deep but your last specialist batsman is at number 6 and that is Sarfraz.

    I believe you have selected too many pacers in this team. 4 fast bowlers and 2 spinners and both can really be classed as part time spinners now that Mansoor has decided to concentrate on his batting more. Also Shoaib Malik isn't really a full time spinner so I don't agree with your squad.


    Imran Nazir
    Nasir Jamshed
    Azhar Ali
    Mohammed Yousuf
    Umar Amin
    Shoaib Malik
    Sarfraz Ahmed
    Rana Naved
    Zulfiqar Babar
    Mohammed Talha
    Sohail Khan

    PS. Do we really want Yousuf,Malik & Rana in the same team after the Australia tour? LOL
     
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    @sixer

    Rana Naved is a genuine lower order batsman, in fact I would send him in at number 3 as a pinch hitter when there's a big score on the board. Mansoor Amjad is a better batsman than Afridi, he has 6 centuries and 15 fifites at first class level. Also if he is given a good run he could bowl to a similar level as Afridi does. Let's not forget, if you remove minnows, Afridi's overall bowling average is closer to 40. Afridi bowls mainly in the middle of the innings unlike Hafeez who opens the bowling or Ajmal who bowls at the death. Bowling in the middle of the innings when the other side is conserving wickets isn't very difficult.

    Malik didn't bowl a lot under the old rules but now that the flex is upto 15 degrees, he could bowl half or more of his quota.

    As for the Malik-Rana-MoYo axis, well we cant all be as lucky as Afridi and have a team shorn of the major troublemakers and then claim to have united the troublemakers in the team.
     
  16. BoomBoom786
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    BoomBoom786 Talented

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    I'm going to try and do this without Malik, Yousuf & Fawad as well:

    1) Sharjeel Khan
    2) Khalid Latif (C)
    3) Azhar Ali
    4) Naved Yasin
    5) Sohaib Maqsood (bowls off spin as well)
    6) Hammad Azam
    7) Safraz Ahmed (WK)
    8) Yasir Shah
    9) Mohammad Talha
    10) Asad Ali
    11) Raza Hasan
    12th man: Lal Kumar
     
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    @BoomBoom

    Interesting selection. Some very good choices in there. Sharjeel and Naved Yasin really deserve chances as does Shehryar Ghani and Asad Ali.

    But I haven't heard of Sohaib Maqsood, tell me more about him.
     
  18. Pakistan97
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    1)Shahzaib Hasan
    2)Khalid Latif
    3)Azhar Ali
    4)Umar Amin
    5)Shoaib Malik (C)
    6)Hammad Azam
    7)Sarfraz Ahmed (WK)
    8)Rana Naved
    9)Sohail Khan
    10)Mohammed Talha
    11)Raza Hasan

    12)Imran Nazir
    13)Nasir Jamshed
    14)Mohammed Yousuf
    15)Mansoor Amjad
    16)Naved Yasin
    17)Mohammed Irfan
    18)Lal Kumar

    19)Mohammed Aamir*

    *When M.Aamir will be free then its good to see him in this Sqaud.
     
  19. Shahzad.Firdous
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    1. Azhar Ali
    2. Fawad Alam
    3. Faisal Iqbal
    4. Yosuf
    5. Shoaib Malik
    6. Hamad Azam
    7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
    8. Mansoor Amjad
    9. Sami
    10. Junaid Khan
    11. Raza Hassan
    reserves : taufeeq umar , yasir hameed, mohd sadaf / aizaz cheema
    @ the one who originated this thread why u dont want us to pick the fabulous trio of Asif, Aamer and Butt ...? anybody would be lucky to have them!
    if those 3 and others were available then my first choice team for WC would have been this :

    1. Salman Butt
    2. Kamran Akmal / Yosuf or Malik
    3. Younus Khan
    4. Misbah / Yosuf
    5. Umar Akmal (wk)
    6. Hafeez / Shoaib Malik
    7. Razzaq
    8. Shahid Afridi
    9. Aamer
    10. Asif
    11. Saeed Ajmal
    reserves : Rehman, Gul
     
  20. bang-bang-razzaq
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    bang-bang-razzaq Youngsta Beauty

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    the lahore badshas team better than india any day
     
  21. Pakistan97
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    Pakistan97 Tracer Bullet

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    thats right the master blaster is imran nazir.PAK::eek:ut
     
  22. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    Because I wanted it to be a realistic XI. All 3 of those players are banned for a minimum of 5 years (for now). The others (in theory) are available to play.
     

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