Gamble Factor or Unprofessionalism ?

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  1. Passionate Pakistani
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    Passionate Pakistani The Don

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    Okay i can understand the x-factor, unknown factor, gamble factor n blah blah factors that it worked in CT (as in case of Rumman Raees) but that doesnt mean you have to gamble it every time and hope against hope that it works ?

    Whats the point of all preparations when you have to gamble right at the eve of worldcup.

    Abid Ali is another one.. played two games against some poor attacks on dubai highways and here he is in WC squad.


    So what were they going to select in case Hasnain and Abid hasnt performed just before worldcup ?

    People call it gamble and x factor but personally i think it is extremely unprofessional.

    Look at Australia, turner and Handscomb had few excellent innings just before WC but werent selected solely on basis of those performances but we always seem to pick players from nowhere just before an ICC tournament.

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  2. godzilla
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    godzilla Talented

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    totally agree. in the case of Abid Ali there is some mitigating circumstance similar to Handscomb, hes perfumed admirably in domestic - him and Shan.

    but it typical of the pakistani mentality that they see a batter plays a couple of shots, or see a bowler take a couple of wickets, and then their brains seem to switch off for all the times that same player failed, believing that those times are anomalies.

    its a bad decisions to take Hasnain imo too, and yes, unprofessional. not because he won't work, but because we have no way of telling if he will. but this isnt the first time these people have made unprofessional decisions, so from that point of view, its predictable.
     
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  3. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    ShokoTolo_LoloMoto Youngsta Beauty

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    Selection of Abid Ali is obviously a brain fart.

    He seems to be more excited to meet Sachin Tendulkar than actually having any strong focus on how to plan and deliver for his country.

    But now that we have him, he should be tried as an opener with Fakhar to form left hand right hand combo, and let’s make Imam sit out till Abid Ali fails - and lets Imam come in to take his turn on failure.

    It an amusing comedy.
     
  4. Energy
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    Energy Cornered Tiger

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    There are a couple of dated, idiotic logics that have been around in the PCB forever.

    1. Back-up wicket keeper to hona hi chahiye
    2. Three opener policy

    Abid filled this criteria and that's why they have picked him. Or they would have picked Rizwan.
     
  5. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    These selectors never turn up to watch domestic cricket - else they would know Rizwan usually opens or plays at 3 for his domestic team.
     
  6. Patriot
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    Patriot Boom Boom

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    Abid faced a pretty darn good attack in UAE tbh
     
  7. Mohammed Bilal
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    Mohammed Bilal Tracer Bullet

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    I think it's fine.

    Case of Abid. 2015 World cup was a joke. We didn't have a spare opener and paid the price. Abid since April 2017 has performed in domestics and and for the A team more then anyone else and on debut got a century. Who else do you want? You don't like Ahmed Shehzad, Farhan is rubbish, Shan failed, only Kamran Akmal, Khurram and Salman Butt left who again you don't like. It's not a Pakistani thing all teams have a back up opener also all teams have a back up keeping option.

    Moving onto Hasnain, people need to get out of this narrow mindset they have. Waqar Younis was also getting smashed when he was first selected and look where he got to as for Wahab and Sami you can't always reference two failures although Sami was a good white ball bowler, problem with him was temperament.
     
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    Mohammed Bilal Tracer Bullet

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    No, he bats at four in List A and five in FC.
     
  9. godzilla
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    godzilla Talented

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    how exactly is the selection of Abid Ali, "obviously a brain fart"??

    and who told you that he has no "strong focus on how to plan and deliver for his country"?

    can you explain in the context of this? :

    http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/69/69429/a_Batting_by_Season.html

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  10. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    ShokoTolo_LoloMoto Youngsta Beauty

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    why? what would that prove? the discussion here is justification for selection, and thats based on what we know now, not on what we will know after the event.

    so why is it "obviously a brain fart" to select abid?
     
  12. Munna
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    Munna Moderator-e-Aala

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    Its a calculated move.

    If the 2 players do well, the selectors are going to be hailed as heroes.

    If the 2 players fail, they'd have an easier escape route justifying selecting youngsters than defending guys like Amir, Shinwari, Wahab, Rizwan, Akmal etc.
     

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