Hammad Azam

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  1. AZK
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    pretty much spot on, he was treated roughly but frankly speaking he was quite fortunate to be picked so early in the first place.
     
  2. Syrience
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    Syrience Youngsta Beauty

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    I just watched he's batting display against Sri Lanka where he produce a magnificent display of 96, a couple of things I noticed is he reminds me of Amla, both are careful with what they choose to go after, similiar batting stance and all that....what I'm trying is maybe you're right, but I doubt he will be given a chance to open for us in the ODIs.
     
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    Azhar not getting chance right now is something which is out of our hand. But if I understand my game than surely by the end of 2013 he & Nasir will be our regular openers in ODI & may be test too.
     
  4. 1137moiz
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    Here's how I see it. Since 2010 I keep hearing that we shouldn't play XYZ allrounder regardless of their performance because Hammad is young and talented and should be groomed. Two years later he's still young and talented and should be groomed while XYZ allrounders are kept out.


    My view is Hammad can eventually become a very good player InshaAllah and possesses the ingredients. But if we're going to be keeping out a white-hot Azhar Mahmood, or a promising Ehsan Adil, or a fading but dangerous Abdul Razzaq on account of Hammad's youth and promise without performance to back it up, that's where I havea problem. Pakistan should pick its best XI. If Hammad was performing as well as say Mahmood has been recently, I'd prefer Hammad because he's young and performing. But if it's a contest between an old but in-form Mahmood and a young but non-performing Hammad, I'll have the former every time.


    In my view, it's lack of confidence and certainty about his own role holding Hammad back. Best thing he can do is focus primarily as a batsman and only a part-time bowler (which seems to be the case now and a step in the right direction), notch up a big score or two, get to an A tour and develop his game further, then get into the side
     
  5. Prince of Pakistan
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    The problem is that he hasn't had a proper run with the bat and that's why judging him becomes difficult or unfair.

    Even in domestic he isn't consistenly getting a chance to have a long bat.


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  6. 1137moiz
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    I don't realy agree as far as domestic games go. Hammad's had plenty of middle-order opportunities, he's even opened a few times and done moderately well. At the end of the day, it's up to him to perform. He gets out in the 20s far too often for my liking--this is in first-class, not one-day, games--and with the ball he's more a guzara part-time arrangement than especial threat. (Same goes for Umer Amin.) Bottomline is that if you want to get to the XI of a national team you need more than just talent and hype to get you there, you need to be knocking the selectors' door down.

    I'm sure that InshaAllah in future years Hammad Azam will significantly play for Pakistan and do well. But at the moment he doesn't deserve to be in the 2nd XI, never mind actual team, on performance.
     
  7. Prince of Pakistan
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    He did not even deserve to be dropped for the last int. game he played. That's my point. He has got limited chances to be really rated. What we only have are first impressions. I am no way saying that he is a complete package but a talented youngster like him deserves a proper run. In t20 maybe if not ODI.

    He needs to bat consistenly in the top five in domestic cricket to spend some quality time on the crease. Ofcourse that is not only in his hands but I hope sincerely hope he doesn't go the Malik/Razzaq(for example) route to become a 'bit of everything' player for Pakistan.


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  8. 1137moiz
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    2 of Hammad's innings, the 36 against Windies (which iirc was his first knock?) and the 30 against Bangladesh were really impressive. That cameo against England in the T20 was OK but nothing really more. However in the 36 he consolidated well in a tense chase and in the 30 he counterattacked and built a delightful partnership with Umar Akmal. Interestingly on both occasions he hit a free hit for six
     
  9. Don Corleone
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    Some times bad domestic players makes good Intl players because they can control their nerves on the big stage and perform.

    And vice versa.
     
  10. taqvi
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    yup i will be having the last laugh after 10 years and you can look for another senior citizen idol as im sure misbah wont be around lol
     
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    I remember those 2 innings, they were pretty decent. I think Pak needs to invest in this guy and see where he stands after 5 ODI series in the team. There's nothing to lose really, especially when considering he will be replacing malik
     
  12. Wistful Reminisces
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    5 series is about 25 matches. For someone who's not even the best domestic all-rounder in the country, that's a lot of experimenting
     
  13. ehtesham
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    how do u rate his batting??

    btw who in your opinion is best alrounder in pakistan atm??
     
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    Fawad Alam. His batting is okay, but he hasn't even set the domestic stage on fire
     
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    :rofl :rofl

    fawad is the best alrounder around?? people do call me dumb sometimes but u seriously top me bro :rofl
     
  16. Wistful Reminisces
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    Guy has an average of over 58 in FC.
     
  17. ehtesham
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    with the ball?? :rofl
     
  18. Bilal123
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    He has age on his side and seemed like a competent cricketer in the few games he has played. He may not be spectacular but give him a try and who knows he may develop into a fine all rounder. I'm pretty sure there aren't many better all rounders out there else they would have been given a chance
     
  19. Wistful Reminisces
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    We need a replacement for Malik, he can bowl well enough for that!
     
  20. ehtesham
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    this thread is not about malik's replacement unfortunately!! this is about hammad azam :) anyway good to see u finding malik's replacement but forgetting that abdul RAZZAQ n yaser arafat also play in the same team as does malik!!

    no doubt malik has been n still a pathetic player but then we don't want anyone in his place who can't even clear the inner circle!! odi's n t20's are not about 100 ball 50's i'm afraid.
     
  21. Wistful Reminisces
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    He's got a strike rate of around 80 in his LOI's. Razzaq and Arafat are only in T20's!
     
  22. Passionate Pakistani
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    Fawad Strike Rates

    Odis - 74
    Tests - 57
    T20s - 115

    Dont understand your obsession with inner circle.
     
  23. ehtesham
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    74 n 115 in loi's

    wow just wow... in short he murders bowling attacks!!

    i hope they take him to s.a :rofl
     
  24. Passionate Pakistani
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    You said 50 off 100 balls which was wrong.

    Pls do not exaggerate things if you hold a personal grudge against someone.. I know why you love him so much.
     
  25. Wistful Reminisces
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    Still not 50 S/R, not even in tests.

    By the way, he played against England in England and Australia in Australia in 10 of those matches, I believe
     
  26. ehtesham
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    i said that sarcastically :facepalm

    hahaha he didn't run away with my lunch back in school days so no point holding grudge against him... its just his lack of ability which makes me right against him.
     
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    Fawad Alam's a batsman, long time since he bowled regularly and even longer since he bowled effectively.

    If you want a spin-bowling allrounder we have Tahir Khan, Qaiser Abbas, Zohaib Khan, Saad Nasim, Yasim Murtaza, and Mohammad Nawaz
     
  28. 1137moiz
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    I think if we're talking allrounders then even older players like Azhar Mahmood and Abdul Razzaq are currently better than Hammad imho.

    Hammad is a better batsman by far but not utilizing his talent. Actually if you wwant a batting allrounder, Ali Shamsher Khan of Sialkot and Khan RL is a fine talent. Wonderful effortless big hitter who can bat anywhere in the top six and an OK medium pacer. Kamran Sajid is another one, solid top order bvatsman and a decent bowler
     
  29. Wistful Reminisces
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    In LOI's, he's more than a decent stop-gap, not that we need one!
     
  30. Major
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    Hammad Azam has shown improvement in this years Quid-E-Azam trophy. He got 28 wickets in 6 games with a bowling avg of 11, but wasnt good with the bat
     

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