Haris Sohail should seal the No.4 spot

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  1. Energy
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    Not just based on today's innings but he was good in the previous Aus series as well. Has good timing, averages close to 50 which add to that his finger spin, he become a valuable part of the team.

    Going forward, this top four would also become a long-term strategy provided Haris doesn't get injured as his fitness is always an issue. But he seems to have the game of a top order batsman and his innings today has done him no harm.
     
  2. s_h_a_f
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    Already sealed. Looking good today.
     
  3. Energy
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    Lets hope so. We have Hafeez and Malik waiting who have the power to push over anyone.
     
  4. s_h_a_f
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    And he is run out. He didn’t even attempt to dive. Very lazy guy.
     
  5. Del
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    My only problem with Harry is that he throws away good starts, like what he did today. The way he got out was atrocious, no other set batsman will run like him (away from the wicket). These little things make a lot of difference, because this pitch has no daemon, he was playing run a ball, could've make a big 100 to help his team but due to his lazy attitude he threw it away.
     
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    Hafeez not being able to bowl has really hurt our combination. Hafeez in there instead of Imad would have been a solid batsman and a handy bowler.
     
  7. Del
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    Who says he cant bowl?
     
  8. Inswinger
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    I don't see him being dropped now. Malik will have to warm the bench. Hafeez should be in for Faheem in the next match.
     
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    Umm no I think faheem is required to bowl. Hafeez in current bowling form with 10 overs with 100 runs given I believe?
     
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    He can bowl obviously but without any kick :p
     
  11. Inswinger
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    Hafeez is a smart bowler. He won't do any worse than what Faheem and Yasir have done. Adds balance to the squad.
     
  12. Disco Lemonade
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    Ok i havent really followed faheem recently, so I cannot compare hafeez and faheem the bowler. We need hafeez, ideally I would swap him with Imad. Replace Junaid with faheem
     
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    Faheem has been absolutely rubbish against teams not named Zimbabwe and other associates. Imad is a must for this team.
     
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    Yes Haris has sealed his place in the top 4.
     
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    Very good player Harris Sohail is, very pleasing on the eye as well. I think he has done enough to play at 4 for Pakistan in WC. Hafeez probably should play at 6. With Hafeez and Harris in team, they can be our 6th and 7th bowling option as well.
     
  16. Bruce Wayne
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    Fakhar Zaman, Imam-ul-Haq, Babar Azam and Haris Sohail. That should be our top 4. Asif Ali absolutely has too carry on performing the way he has been in the next 2 ODI's as well and that's our top 5 sorted.

    Really don't want too see Malik or Hafeez in the starting XI in all honesty.
     
  17. Del
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    On contrary, I would opt Hafeez on Harris, because it seems to me that once set Hafeez can accelerate when needed. However, Harry continue to bat in similar way, he doesnt possesses that 5th gear which is needed to attack.

    Icing on the cake, Hafeez's bowling.

    Our top 5 batters should be able to play according to condition and also must be able to push scoring rate when needed and for that, I will go with Fakhar, Imam, Babar, Hafeez and Asif.
     
  18. Energy
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    The Mafia of Hafeez and Malik is far too good for keeping deserving players on the bench. And the board is weak in its knees to kick them out.
     
  19. iZeeshan
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    Idk guys, I want Haris but it is clear that Sarfraz needs to bat up the order to succeed, and for better or for worse, he's a lock in this team

    Haris has shown no ability to accelerate and IMO he's a worse Babar. Malik and Hafeez can both accelerate / hit sixes. Make of that info what you will.
     
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    Fakhar,imam,Babar,harris,hafeez,sarf and asif should be our lineup.If 5 bowlers are needed, then either hafeez or asif should make way for the bowler
     
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    Simple solution is for Babar to open with Zaman. Haris at 3. Sarfraz 4. Hafeez 5. Asif 6.
     
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    I did consider this. BUT, I think Imam is a very good batsman who makes it into the team on his own merit, not just because he is an opener. That 150 in the 3rd ODI was a masterclass tbh. Haris cannot bat as fast as Imam can.
     
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    Haris has shown a change in gear recently. He's not as slow as you'd think.
     
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    Fakhar
    Imam
    Babar
    Haris
    Sarfaraz
    Hafeez
    Malik/Shadab
    Imad
    Amir
    Hasan
    Shaheen
     
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    Shadab is a must. Don't you think we need Asif on these pitches?
     
  26. ASLI-PATHAN
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    If Hafeez, Malik, Imad & Shadab can up the ante then I don't think so we need him. For him to play we would be forced to drop a proper bat.
     
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    Haris is a seriously good player no doubt, but Hafeez and Malik provide you with more dynamic batting.

    He doesn't fit in this team unfortunately.

    Not to forget his shoddy fielding and fitness.

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  28. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Malik has recently been playing more of a tuk tuk role where he focuses on building the innings. He takes singles doubles and keeps trying to nudge the ball around.

    Why is he sitting at No 6? He is not a big hitter by default.

    IMO, if he continues to play the way he is playing he should be in at No 4.

    He can hold the innings together in the middle overs by playing his natural game, that could benefit the team.
     
  29. Energy
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    Again - why Haris isn't a permanent figure in the batting lineup is beyond shocking. Any explanation as to why Malik wasn't in the subs bench today?
     
  30. ASLI-PATHAN
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    He should be a permanent member of our ODI side but he needs to work hard on his fitness. Today while batting with Imad he was sitting after running doubles. He was very tired in the middle. Imagine if he was playing in say India or SL. he would be dead by now.
     
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  32. Bilal123
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    Too late now for this world cup. Shame he wasn't a regular from the start and they dropped him after 1 innings.

    This guy is 2nd most talented in the country after Babar and he gets dropped for can't bowl, can't bat Shoaib Sobers Malik :mad:
     
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    I believe sarfraz doesn't like him,, he is never used as a bowler while in Wc15 he was one of the spinner for the team.

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    Sarfraz only likes to win for the country. We can call him dumb, fat or whatever but I don’t expect him to sideline players based on his likes and dislikes even if they are good for the country.
     
  35. Bruce Wayne
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    Better than Hafeez, Malik, Asif Ali and Sarfaraz now as a batsman. It's disgusting how our management dropped him after just 1 innings in the tournament. Just imagine how much better we would have been if the top 4 was maintained as:

    Imam
    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris

    I know even at their absolute best and if Haris, Imam and Babar do well we won't get too 350+ but more time if Pakistan are above 300 it makes it very difficult too beat us regardless the current form our bowling has been in.
     
  36. Del
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    More to the point, post WC, Harris should feature regularly in ODI and Test side, however, he needs to work very hard on his fitness.
     
  37. Mohammed Bilal
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    I've backed him because he's a decent player against pace bowling. Short ball still a lot if work to do. He plays pull but it goes to midwicket instead of square. On a good bouncer you can't play that shot otherwise flick, drives, cuts, lofted shots are glorious. Just a massive shame that he's 30, has fitness issues and a dodgy knee.

    He's one of those batsman that you know will succeed in internationals to some extent.

    A proper batsman will always adjust to a situation but could someone like Asif do that? Asif is glorified too much. It's not like he's making 50s of 20 balls. He's making them off 35 balls. After the World cup they should invest in him as a hitter but in this big campaign keep him out.
     
  38. Energy
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    Asif won't get you more than 25 runs on average because he's not a batsman.

    Cloaking him as a batsman has been a trait that our management is famous for.
     
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    Pull going to mid-wicket means he has lots of time and on bouncy wicket it will automatically go toward square.

    Haris over malik,hafeez and asif.on any given day and if he is bowling than it will icing on the cake.

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    I agree but generally balls he pulls are short and on the off stump or outside off stump.

    I'm talking about bouncers on the body or close to him. He only pulls when he's got room otherwise he ducks bouncer.

    TBH I don't care if he pulls towards midwicket or square or even fine. It's where he's pulling or hooking from of course ideally your pull should try to be hit so it misses any fielder.
     
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