Hussain Talat : Performace watch

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  1. Mohammed Bilal
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    He told Shehzad to play at a SR of 50, Remember when Jamshed came into the team in 2012 he was the real deal, made runs against good attacks and scored 3 hundreds vs India, after that Jamshed would score like 10 off 28, or 20 off 45.Harry was never a AR infact most of his wickets have come in Intls, he hardly had any domestic wickets, he was a guy averaging 50 in FC cricket and around 40 in List A cricket so how he wasn’t really an AR.

    Umar Akmal was decent till 2014 but he kept on playing him at 6.

    Shehzad has become Confused.Com and the less said about Jamshed and Akmal the better, He was about to ruin Harry’s career had it not been for Lala.
     
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    do you have proof of him telling shehzad to bat at 50 SR
    stop making stuff up, Shehzad was never a opening smasher
    you said Jamshed scored 3 hundreds and then became trash, how is that Misbah's fault ?

    your post is pouring not logic but hate for Misbah
     
  3. s_h_a_f
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    Hahahaha. Misbah told Shehzad to bat slow?? Hahaha. Show us proof. Infact, it was under Misbah that Nasir Jamshed scored heavily. Stop making up stuff.

    Can you explain why Shehzad still continued to bat at a slow SR AFTER Misbah retired? Is Misbah using telepathic powers?
     
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    How am I meant to show proof???? It isn’t made up, When he played against NZ under the captaincy of Afridi he scored a Attacking hundred but after that he turned into a slowpoke.

    Back on topic, Hussain Talat shouldn’t be batting at 8.
     
  5. s_h_a_f
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    You said Misbah asked Shehzad to bat slow..you obviously know something that we don’t..so tell us how do you know this?

    Fact is Shehzad & Umar are crap. It’s a hard fact for you to accept so you will blame it on Misbah instead.
     
  6. Mohammed Bilal
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    I wouldnt rate guys that score runs in South Africa, NZ and Australia as crap.

    Them boys had a lot of talent, Off course they may be lost causes at this point especially Umar.
     
  7. s_h_a_f
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    You still haven’t answered the question..how do you know?
     
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  10. Mohammed Bilal
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    What about Farhan the opener?
     
  11. Mohammed Bilal
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    Isn’t Misbahs achievement,lol, Probably Denos plan, Stop glorifying Misbah to the moon he is no Imran.
     
  12. s_h_a_f
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    Who says he is Imran? Aaaaah I see..when they win it is not Misbah’s plan..when they lose..it’s Misbah’s fault. You are deluded. Confirmed.

    So today Islamabad spanked you & Karachi all ovet the park. Lol
     
  13. Mohammed Bilal
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    Where was Misbah though?

    Do you actully think Misbah is that innovative???????

    And you are insulting me by calling me deluded.

    JP and Ronchi were the men to be praised, Where does Misbah come into this.

    Thankfully he sent Talat at no3.
     
  14. s_h_a_f
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    Because you claim Misbah makes everyone bat slow yet today they spanked Karachi.. a thapar for you.

    You are just biased against Misbah. Must hurt you to see his side do well.
     
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  15. Patriot
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    can be a handy middle overs bowler
     
  16. s_h_a_f
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    Can you also tell us how you know that Misbah told Shehzad to bat slow @Mohammed Bilal
     
  17. Del
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    First failure with the bat - should've finished the game today.
     
  18. abc_to_xyz
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    A little bigger sample should answer that.
     
  19. Energy
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    He's the only one who will be drafted into the T20I team after this season.
     
  20. Mohammed Bilal
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    Let’s hope so.
     
  21. Bilal123
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    Shehzad has always been slow. Misbah or no Misbah. Just look at his debut series in ODI's vs Australia. His sr was around 50-60 lol
     
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    Misbah trying his best to ruin Talat by sending him in at #3 @Mohammed Bilal
     
  23. Patriot
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    hahaha

    also Misbah has ruined Sahibzada's career @Prince Pathan
     
  24. Mohammed Bilal
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    Sirrr Lord Misbah’s Fan boy to the rescue.
     
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    The only time he showed glimpses of potential was in the 2011 NZ series before the World Cup, he played pretty aggressively in that series, it was the first and last time.

    Ever since that series people got the notion that he is an aggressive player, which he clearly is not.

    He's been around since 2009, it is 2018.....
     
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    I know. In 9 years every tom **** and harry will have a decent series. However, he's been consistently mediocre otherwise
     
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    Yeah Shehzad has the lowest strke rate in this PSL as well even much lower than Asad Shafiq.
     
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    'I want to be a prominent name in Pakistan history' - Hussain Talat

    Hussain Talat is a 22-year-old big-hitting batsman from Shahdara, on the outskirts of Lahore, who has made a particularly good start to his career in one-day cricket. He is playing his second season of the Pakistan Super League, for Islamabad United, and is desperate to become a household name of Pakistan cricket. Here are his thoughts of growing up in a small town - the same one Abdul Razzaq calls home - and his hopes for the future.

    Cricket. I picked it up because my father and his brothers run a sports shop, Ravi Cricket Club, in Shahdara in Lahore. But the focus was my elder brother; they wanted him to go big and represent Pakistan at highest level but later they realised that I was also into cricket and had the potential so the focus then shifted to me.

    The streets are where I started playing, but I had no real ambition, I was just playing because it was what all kids my age did. Because cricket is very close to our heart. It's part of our curriculum. Abdul Razzaq, the famous allrounder, was from my area and that was a source of pride for me. He later left the town and moved to Lahore and his success was something that tempted me. He used to live some two streets away from us and thinking about that always made me feel good.


    Also when I was around 10, international cricket was regularly being played here at home. Things were normal back then. We used to have proper cricketing activates going around. I remember in 2006, I watched the Pakistan-India Test in Karachi at home, covered up in a blanket on a cold morning. I also remember I had a final exam but Kamran Akmal was batting that day and I was desperately praying for him to score a hundred. So growing up in a home like that, with my childhood filled with cricket, it pushed me to play.

    New Lion Sports, that's the name of the shop I managed as a 15-year-old. We have two shops and my father handed that one over to me. I left regular studies when I was in 7th standard; joined Muslim Model School because they let us appear for final exams and spend the rest of our time playing cricket. So there was a set routine, getting up early, taking my kit bag, putting it in front of my motorbike, and heading for Minto Park to practice.

    Practice finished around 11.30 am and then I would drive back to open my sports shop which was situated in front of the Abdul Razzaq stadium in our town. Later in the day, I would pick up my kitbag again and go to Minto Park for some more practice with Victorious Cricket Club, and after finishing around sunset return to my shop and sit there until 11pm. So that was how I spent my teens. Minto Park, the shop, and Minto park again.

    Everyone has a history behind them. I used to sell bangles and firecrackers on Eid in front of my shop and also sold threads for flying kites just to keep my livelihood. I was on my own with a shop in the lower-middle-class part of town. So life hasn't been so good to me, but I did what I had to do to earn money and never let my passion for cricket go down. You see, we have all struggled in life to achieve something and I am thankful that it's paying off well. I am the now the most loved person in my house. My mother had reservations about allowing me to play cricket, but now she is so happy when she sees me walking out into the field.

    I grew up playing on cement tracks in Shahdara. Teams there used to score 500-plus in 35 overs and it would be chased down easily. So there was no concept of blocking or getting out. It was just all about power-hitting. The grounds here are not really big either, so scoring 300-400 runs is a very normal thing. Our town was the scariest one for visiting teams. I was bit conservative with my batting approach earlier but playing more frequently on those cement tracks made me open my arms a bit more. So that is how I learnt big hitting.

    My first-class average - 27.35 - isn't really something I am proud of but I am evolving and I understand I have to tone myself down in four-day cricket. But at the same time, our four-day cricket in Pakistan is more difficult with a lot of changes in the ball we use, the pitches, even the format of the tournament. So it's not just about ability, but adapting to all those changes. I know I can do it, though, because the basics of the game are the same.

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    Hussain Talat celebrates victory with Misbah-ul-Haq PSL

    I don't want to be known as a short-form specialist. At this stage of my career, I don't want to streamline myself and play only one-day and T20 cricket. I did struggle in the longer format at the start of my career and I do enjoy shorter format. But my issues are just a perception thing. My seniors have told me that I should view first-class cricket as just another form of the game and start enjoying it. In 2016-17, I made four fifties with a top score of 82. So it was all about state of mind and enjoying any time you go out and play. But right now, I haven't played enough first-class cricket to be judged.

    Pakistan Super League is the best thing that's happened to me. It has not only helped me overcome my financial struggle but played a significant part in my development as a batsman. The exposure I've got is exceptional, people suddenly started to know who I was and it gave me a sense of identity. When I go back to domestic cricket, they know I am from Islamabad United. When you perform well, it just sends out positive vibes all around. With just one performance last year in the second edition, I got a call-up to a national camp for 30 players and then went on to play the Asia Cup for the Emerging Players.

    The biggest thing, though, is that some four or five years ago, we used to follow players from South Africa, England and Australia and wonder how they can play the way they do, and why we couldn't play like them. We used to wonder what was different between us and them. Now, I realise there is no difference at all. We are not lesser to anyone. It's all about exposure. In fact, I was talking to Samit Patel and JP Duminy about this. Mixing with them in the PSL, I realised all cricketers are the same.

    Insecurity and fear. That might be the only difference between a Pakistani player and a foreign player. They are brimming with confidence - more than any of our players - and that comes as a product of the system. They have a steady state of mind which is why they are more consistent. We unfortunately came from a broken system and the only mantra at domestic level is deliberately pushing a player to face hardships. They want us to toil unnecessarily in this cruel system. Whoever comes out well is considered a player. It's totally wrong.

    We need to develop a player properly through a system like every other country. We shouldn't have to fight to earn a place - let us develop through a proper system rather than throwing us out in the desert all alone and asking us to crawl up to the top. The PSL gave us an opportunity to develop properly. It's nearly a month long, it allows us to gauge ourselves about where we stand and makes us compete against the best in the world. We have trained coaches, we have professional people around us, and this is really going well.

    I am 22 and ready for the national call. All I want to is to play for long enough that I become a prominent name in the history of Pakistan cricket. If you have noticed recently, players come and go after one or two series but my goal is to serve for a long time. There are always complaints about lack of opportunity and lack of chances to make the playing XI but I won't talk like that. I just want to make the best out of any chance I get. I don't want to carry the regret that I didn't perform, so I am always mentally ready because I know I have done good enough work to reach here. So I will make sure I keep on contributing and become a team member who is an automatic pick.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22721109/i-want-prominent-name-pakistan-history-hussain-talat
     
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    He seemed too jerky early. Was just fine after that.

    Did he deserved MOTM? I thought Malik did more.
     
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    Yeah debut match, bound to be nervous. Settled in well though and played some beautiful shots/looked good.

    Malik deserved to be MoM but meh.

    Hope he scores again tonight and tomorrow and is inducted into the ODI side and given a run there too in prep for the WC. Will be a good middle order batsman.
     
  31. Mohammed Bilal
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    This was the best innings where I have seen him bat.

    Decent batsman, the Quality of bowling was decent as well, he didn’t smash around slow dibble dobbly bowlers and spinners, he faced good bowlers like Emrit, Williams, Paul and Badree.

    He has a cover drive, Lofted cover drive, Flick of the pads, Cut shot, third man shot and the straight six.

    His running needs to improve though.
     
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    They weren't beautiful, just okay. He couldn't hit much even on the softer balls.

    I hope for same, he seems like one who can play ODIs.
     
  33. Del
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    This guy has all the shots in his arsenal, he can play pace and spin equally well. He can play on both sides of the wicket and can improvise as well.

    What also I noticed is that when Kohli comes in, for the first 8-10 balls his focus is only onto rotate the strike gauge the speed of the pitch. He keeps the dots balls to the minimum in this period. No false, flashy stroke unless the ball is absolutely garbage. Then once he has his eye in he slowly turns the screw finding the boundaries with normal cricketing shots and in the meanwhile rotating the strike with minimal dot balls.

    What I like the most about his game is that he plays risk free shots.
     
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    2 games, 2 performances

    Cant complain
     
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    Debutant Talat credits PSL for 'fast forward growth' of Pakistani players

    KARACHI: Pakistan’s young all-rounder Hussain Talat has credited the Pakistan Super League for the “fast forward growth” of Pakistani players enabling them to compete in the international arena.

    The all-rounder who made his debut for the Pakistan side against West Indies on Sunday night said the Pakistan Super League (PSL) has become a nursery for players where they can learn how to perform in the international arena.

    The youngster who delivered a man-of-the-match winning performance added, “PSL has become a grooming arena for players. We get to play along with international players which gives us an idea of how to perform at the top level.”

    Talat scored 41 and took a wicket against West Indies during the first T20I at Karachi’s National Stadium on Sunday.

    “PSL gives us an idea on how to play international bowlers according to the situation,” he highlighted.

    The 22-year-old all-rounder said that he is equally working on his bowling and aims to become a fast bowling all-rounder for the country like Abdul Razzaq.

    “I am also working on my bowling and look forward to becoming a full-time fast bowling all-rounder for the team, while batting at an upper position,” he said. “I can open as well,” the all-rounder added.

    Speaking about his debut, the Islamabad United bowler said it was “a dream come true” and he considers himself lucky to be making his debut with a historic game that brought cricket back to Karachi.

    “I consider myself lucky and fortunate that I got the green cap and made my debut in Pakistan,” he said.

    Talat added, “I was told just before the warm-up that I was going to play today. It was like a dream come true moment for me.”

    Responding to a question, Talat said he was happy to see his team win and did not regret missing the fifty.

    He added that the West Indies team can’t be called a weak side.

    “Can’t call them a weak team, their players are specialists of T20, but we played well and outclassed them in all departments,” he said.

    “If any of their batsmen had managed to stay, things would have been different and we might have witnessed a good contest,” the all-rounder concluded.

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/189123-debutant-talat-credits-psl
     
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    Well played in this WI series. I think he should be given chance in ODI's at number 3 by promoting Babar to open but I don't think Inzi will take that chance as Bhanja's position will be compromised.
     
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    Hussain Talat, made for cricket

    The first time I saw Hussain Talat was in a domestic T20 fixture in Novermber, 2017. He scored 224 runs at an average of 56 with the highest score of 68. I was thoroughly impressed by his ability to bowl bouncers and slower balls. What I noticed about him was his temperament, the ability to cut the ball late and range of shots.

    After the departure of legends like Abdul Razzaq and Azhar Mehmood, Pakistan has not been able to find a good pace bowling all-rounder who can increase the run rate at the death overs and also provide the captain with an additional bowling option. Hussain seems to be the long-awaited find, and not to forget Faheem Ashraf, another recent find who has also made his presence felt at the grandest stages of them all. Hussain’s inclusion in the team has strengthened the competition between the two all-rounders.

    Hussain’s father wanted his elder son, Hassan, to become a pace bowler and go on to serve the Pakistan cricket team. Every morning, Hassan was forced to wake up early and go to practice before school time, but it was Hussain who would be the more willing out of the two. It was his persistence to go along with his father and his perseverance that helped him make it to Pakistan’s national cricket team.

    In 7th standard, Hussain switched to Muslim Model High School purely to play cricket; the school used to conduct net sessions at Minto Park (Iqbal Park now) in the morning. After the net session, he would go to the family owned sports goods shop and return for another net session in the afternoon at his cricket club called Victorious cricket club. After the practice session, he would go back to the shop and attend to it till 11 pm.

    For 3-4 years, the continuous to-and-fro action was his routine. “My friends used to enjoy their life and say that I am wasting my life in cricket”, said Hussain Talat while talking to Daily Times.

    But, that didn’t deter him from his path to becoming an international cricketer. He kept at it with sheer dedication and hard work to eventually receive the Pakistan team cap from former captain Ramiz Raja.

    Hussain started off as a leg spin batting all-rounder, even though his inclination was always towards pace bowling. However, on his father’s conviction that it’s easier to get into the national side as a leg-spinner because there aren’t many, Hussain began bowling leg spin. The 22-year-old, however, changed it to pace bowling soon, with occasional but effective slower ones added to his arsenal courtesy the short stint at leg spin bowling.

    PSL has proved to be a breakthrough platform for the young star. Not only has the tournament helped Hussain change his mindset as he is more positive in his approach now, it has also provided him with an opportunity to learn from the giants of the game.

    “I have seen international players in PSL being all confident and never scared of failure, they focus on the win. I have also started thinking about positive stuff, I tell myself that what would happen if I succeed rather than thinking what would happen if I fail,” he said.

    “It’s more about learning from the senior players, the nervousness of facing the big names is gone now,” said Hussain.

    Hussain is the product of Pakistan’s domestic setup, he started with club cricket, which led him to play under 16-19 district tournaments. Later, he joined the department cricket to further play first class and list A cricket.

    He joined Zarai Taraqiati Bank Limited’s under-19 cricket team, which had Babar Azam as captain at the time. During the second season at ZTBL under Zafar Gohar’s leadership, Hussain scored the highest number of runs in Pakistan. The performance earned him a place for Pakistan under-19 team’s tour of England for a tri-series.

    Speaking about his changes in approach to the game, Hussain said that he was predominantly a leg-side player during the under-19 time, which limited his game. He practiced hard to play and develop shots on the off-side upon recognising the issue. “I went back in nets to practice on playing towards cover and extra-cover, now my favorite shot is towards extra-cover”.

    On his debut against West Indies in Karachi, Hussain won the player of the match award for his hard earned 41 runs, 1 wicket and 3 catches. Playing in front of the home crowd and winning player of the match award, it was a dream come true for the 22-year-old from Lahore.

    His international career has just kick-started and given his credentials, one can only hope for more such performances by this young talent for the Pakistan team. However, he still has a lot to learn and has to further prove himself in One Day Internationals and Test cricket to truly earn the respect of cricket fraternity.

    https://dailytimes.com.pk/233587/hussain-talat-made-for-cricket/
     
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    BUMPED!!!

    Didnt live up to the expectation but I wouldn't discard him and Asif and will give them more chances.
     
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    should replace sohail in test side, thats where he can grow as a batsman
     
  40. Mohammed Bilal
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    Are you having a laugh?

    He will be exposed big time more than anything, his FC record shows he still has to improve.
    Haris averages 50 in FC and is someone who seems to have time to play the ball, Talat doesn’t have as much time and, in Tests where is he going to score his runs if there are 3 slips, a man at mid off and a man at point, he has a cut shot but that needs working on.

    He doesn’t look like a complete cricketer that can play beyond T20s, the best bowlers in the PSL did get him out and that too bowled.

    I rate Salman Agha much higher than Talat.
     

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