Imran Khan rejects PCB's new domestic model

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  1. Patriot
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    Imran Khan, the Pakistan prime minister and patron of the PCB, has rejected the board's new proposed domestic cricket model, insisting that departments should have no role in the game.

    The PCB put together a model in which department teams such as HBL, WAPDA and PIA would remain relevant stakeholders alongside regional sides - although initially even the PCB had decided to strip departments of their playing rights. But this idea was knocked down by Imran, who does not want departments in the system in any capacity. He has instead directed the PCB to rework the structure to include just six provisional teams - two from Punjab, and one each from Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan.

    Imran was a strong advocate of a domestic structure with only regional sides for much of his playing career, enamoured especially by the Australian Shield Cricket structure. There are many now - as there were then - who believe such a model will not work in Pakistan, where the population is nearly nine times that of Australia. The prime minister believes that the sizeable talent in the country must not be allowed to go to waste, with it being the PCB's responsibility to provide a conducive environment for that talent to flourish. He was also concerned about the exodus of cricket talent over the years.

    With all this in mind, a PCB task team worked out a plan to reduce the number of regional teams in the system, but also kept the departments alive, making them sponsor of the regional teams and in effect, giving them a significant role in the domestic circuit.

    A presentation on the new model was prepared by Haroon Rasheed, the PCB's director of domestic cricket. A team of PCB officials then called on Imran for a briefing. While the model came close to what Imran had asked for, the role of the departments in any capacity was instantly ruled out.

    The proposal was based on a structure that included eight regional teams, either from a city or from a province, while the various departments like HBL, WAPDA and PIA - long the backbone of Pakistan's domestic cricket - were constituted to finance each region. The idea behind this proposal was to make each region self-sufficient, with funding from both the PCB as well as the departments.

    The PCB confirmed such a meeting had taken place, but sought to downplay any rift between the prime minister's objectives and the PCB's, telling ESPNcricinfo they had been proceeding in accordance with Imran's directives.

    There are currently 16 teams on the domestic circuit playing in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy - eight from the regions and eight departments. The new model aimed to cut down the number of top-tier teams to just eight, with only the regional sides allowed to play first-class cricket.
     
  2. Mohammed Bilal
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    Imran Khan is spot on with this six team idea. The usual morons are saying Khan sahab should take population into account. The cricket will still be played at large scale at inter district level. Currently Pakistan has 97-104 inter district teams. Inter district pick players up from clubs, talent hunts, schools, colleges and universities. Imran knows more about cricket then you ever will so please don’t question him, without Imran I would have liked to see how you would have won a WC, lol we all saw what happened in 99 and then in 2011 when we had a very good team. Look at Australia whenever they play Test Cricket the debuting player feels no difference from FC and Tests our players they don’t know anything, they are overweight or too skinny, they are poor runners and are poor fielders, the batsman aren’t able to build on their techniques because the fast medium bowlers get too much assistance. Our players have negative mindset like India ke khilaf jeet na hai har haal meh. Generally most of our players get under pressure easily and are shy/nervous. Quality and not quantity as they say.
     
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    Six teams are not enough for Pakistan. Why do we have to follow the Aussies model? It makes no sense. Compare the population of the two countries and you can tell this idea will never work. I know that there are far too many teams in the FC circuit but you can't cut them all the way down to 6. There should be at least 10 teams.
     
  4. Mohammed Bilal
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    Population is large but they are not stopping cricket at all levels, they are not reducing club cricket teams or uni/school teams, if an inter district selects you you can still play cricket for one of them 104 teams but you have to be good to play FC or grade two, cricket will still happen at large scale however the best players will come to the top and this makes it competitive, look at Lahore blues and Lahore whites in FC only Rizwan Hussain and Usman Salahuddin from both teams combined average above 30, only 64+18 batsman/All rounder in entire Pakistan average above thirty, 6*20 =120, enough from to get them 81 batsmen in also I may add about 35 batsman who average 30+ are over 30, it’s enough to get in young talent and the FC performers.
     
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    I think he’s right. The large number of teams has allowed nepotism to flourish. If there’s only six teams, you just can’t afford to carry passengers and will have to play the very best players.
     
  6. Mohammed Bilal
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    BTW have a listen to Mohammed Wasim, he knows the ground reality and has explained it very well, it's all easy to say 'oh our domestic is poor' tell us the root cause and thankfully Wasim who seems a decent bloke has told us.

     
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    PCB working on provincial-based domestic cricket model with six teams

    LAHORE: After failing to convince the patron-in-chief of Pakistan Cricket Board, Prime Minister Imran Khan over the proposed model of domestic cricket structure which comprised eight regional teams at the top and as many regional sides in the Grade-II and with a sponsorship role for the departments, the PCB think-tank has decided to formulate a new model on provincial basis that will restrict the teams to six.

    The PM had rejected the proposed draft when a delegation of the PCB met him in Islamabad last month comprising all top officials. Imran, in turn, had asked the delegation to come up with a draft comprising six teams at the first-class level.

    Dawn learnt on authority that in order to implement the instructions given by the prime minister, a plan has been devised under which Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, KP and Federal Areas cricket associations will be formed, thus ending the current set-up of 16 regional bodies. In the domestic cricket circuit — from U-16 to first-class cricket — six teams will be representing their respective provinces with Punjab fielding two teams in each tournament while other provinces will enter one team apiece. However, the associations at city level will continue to work to feed the players to the provincial teams and to play B-grade cricket.

    “We are starting work on the new programme to base the domestic cricket on provincial level as per the instructions of the prime minister. The current affiliated departments of the PCB will be asked to sponsor the provincial associations and if they are not ready to do it, then the PCB will run it from its own sources,” a PCB official said.

    The official, on condition of anonymity, told Dawn that soon the exercise to make the provincial base system will start and, in the first step, clubs across the country will be scrutinised. He said no bogus club will be allowed to function which had been existing in big numbers and were misusing the funds and precious time of the PCB. He ensured that very strict scrutiny process will commence soon.

    “After completing the draft of the system — from club to provincial level — and after gaining the approval of the patron, an amendment in the PCB constitution will be sought to implement the new system in letter and spirit,” he said.

    However, the official admitted that in the new system, the players currently representing the departments may lose their jobs but by appearing for their provincial teams they will get match fees.

    He also admitted that match fees could not be the alternate of the monthly salaries which the cricketers were getting from their departments for representing their teams in the current domestic system, but they will get good money by representing the provincial teams.

    It may be mentioned here that several former cricketers, who had earned handsome amounts of money by representing the departments and by holding key posts on sports basis in leading departments such as PIA, in banking industry and other organisations, are vehemently opposing the idea of abolishing the role of departmental cricket.

    According to them, the departments are not only a big source for the cricketers to earn good money but also enjoy their game under a comfortable atmosphere which may not be available at regional or provincial levels.

    It may be mentioned here that the provincial-based system had already been tested during the tenure of retired Lt Gen Tauqir Zia back in 2002 but it was not very successful.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1474233/p...l-based-domestic-cricket-model-with-six-teams
     
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    Wasim is also against the idea of cutting down the FC teams. He's a strong supporter of departments runnng FC as well.
     
  9. Mohammed Bilal
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    Wasim should stop fretting, I'm sure he doesn't want 16 teams, maybe 10 like you however problem is Pakistan has a massive shortage of batsman so even ten teams will be too much, ideal number of teams is 7-8 however two teams less is better then two teams more as for the rest of the players they can go to play grade two cricket. Problem with department is they don't go out and pick players from inter district, maybe they have trials but that's it, mostly all of there players are handpicked from regions as well as this most departments don't own a ground so you can't run domestic on departments. Once you kick them departments out and have a six team structure everything becomes simplified , you can then come up with solutions to problems like the democratic system in place also six provincial teams reduces the power of regional mafia heads.

    India has 32 teams because they have a lot of money which means it's professional, Just look through a few teams and you will notice every team has 2-3 batsman who average 40 and some very good spinners although yes in some teams they have fast bowler shortage as for England the system is professional however is England a top team? Also many experts including Atherton and Nasser have found faults in the county system. Rest including SA, Nz, Aus, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, West Indies and even Bangladesh have mostly 6 teams. Bangladesh has 8 I think. Look at SL they have lots of teams however they have elite standard school cricket which is why they can still barely compete.

    Once you reduce FC teams you can then ask for competency of regional and inter district management as they are the ones who make sure club cricket is functional, making sure they organise school tournaments and talent hunts so they need to be competent.

    PCB doesn't know what's going on. You have 68 departments then for regions you have 16 regions and 18 regional teams, then you have same 18 regional U-19 teams and under them regions you have 104 inter district. Clubs just register they may not play matches or have ground/nets however they have vote, once you uncomplicate this you can go out and spend time scrutinizing and then from that report you can find solutions to build club cricket up and evolve school cricket. I have high hopes from Mani and Wasim Khan.
     
  10. Mohammed Bilal
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    When you reduce teams automatically the other factors solve themselves, I'm talking about umpiring and pitches. For example before every weak a match would be played at Faislabad with six teams instead of 8 back to back matches you will only have about 3 matches at Faislabad all season this relaxes the groundsmen so they can prepare sporting pitches as for umpires I can deploy the best officials.
     
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    ‘Depts won’t retain teams if their rights are taken away’

    KARACHI: Sports director of a departmental cricket team which is participating in Grade II cricket from April 14 has said that if PCB did not allow the departments to work independently, it would be very difficult for them to retain their cricket team. "But let’s see what happens. We still hope that something good would come out in the new domestic cricket format," he told ‘The News’ on Monday. He said that Pakistan is not England or Australia where dozens of options are available to sportsmen to earn their butter and bred. "Here in our society departments are the backbone of our sports culture. Thus, we cannot wipe them out," he said.

    "Those departments who wanted to run their cricket teams would resist and try their best for survival. We are waiting for the PCB’s new domestic cricket official announcement," he added.

    Some senior cricketers of HBL who have lost their jobs and contracts are and annoyed with the decision of their bank’s administration and they are waiting to know how the administration would compensate their losses. "Then they would decide how they fight for their rights," a source said. Meanwhile, the regions’ heads are also waiting for the PCB’s new domestic format.

    It is pertinent to mention here that PM Imran Khan has rejected the proposal of merging departments and regions. He wants the domestic cricket to be based solely on regional competitions. But surprisingly, the regions heads have not been taken in confidence.

    The PM wants the new domestic format to comprise only six teams on regional bases. Habib Bank Limited (HBL), the title sponsor of the Pakistan Super League, has already "demobilised" its cricket team. UBL had closed down its team before that. ZTBL has asked cricketers employed by it to do desk jobs. Those department that played Grade II cricket are hoping that they would not be affected by the new plan.

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/455242-depts-won-t-retain-teams-if-their-rights-are-taken-away
     
  12. Mohammed Bilal
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    What I'd like is for each provincial first class team to have it's own NCA type facility and full coaching panel. I get the impression Pakistan players don't get to use the bowling machines as often, for a batsman a bowling machine is necessary, currently rich boys have them, better players may not have access to one. Each team should also have a full coaching panal including fitness coach, fielding, batting, bowling and head coach, this will prepare players for intl cricket.

    I personally am very excited about this new structure I just hope the TTF limit is controlled. It was a mistake on PCB part to give captaincy role in Pak cup to all players who realistically have no odi future for Pakistan, guys like Butt, Farhat, Kami I'm sure would be good domestic batsmen although others who are older or less profilic need to go.
     

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