Key to success in the QF like match against West Indies!

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  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Key to success in the QF like match against Westindies
    March 30, 2014 at 7:21am

    By Shahzad Firdous

    Key for Pakistan will be how early they can get the wicket of Chris Gayle or keep him quiet for long like india did. He holds the key in this match for me. Pak batting will put up a good score on the board the way they are playing at the moment and Pak batting usually does well in t20 format. They at least regularly put 150 - 160 on the board and bowlers are usually gud enuff to defend that total against any team but in my view we would have to get extra 15-20 runs against this westindian batting which is full of power hitters though they dont have Keioron Pollard in this tournament- another big hitter.
    Back to my point. Bowlers from Pakistan who are most likely to get Gayle out or keep him quiet - Irfan (not playing in this tournament. a big set back for us), Hafeez early on and Ajmal - the Mr. dependable!! Gayle being a left hander has struggled against offspin in the tournament and Pak have the best of the spinners at their disposal. The man who had put Gayle on the back foot in the past - the 7 feet 1 inch tall Irfan is not playing. Now onus will be on Hafeez and Ajmal to get rid of him. Gayle will find Afridi and Zulfiqar easier with ball generally coming into him but Afridi's googly can bamboozle him but still with Afridi a skittish legspinner my money is on Ajmal and Hafeez to get him.
    Gayle will get into Sohail Tanveer big time. Other batsmen might let him go but Chris Gayle wont spare him so its better if we dont open the bowling with Sohail Tanveer against Gayle but we dont have too many options and he is the only weaklink in our attack as far as i m concerned. Even Gul will go for runs against Gayle with the new ball but he is the best option to share the new ball with Hafeez in my view!!
    Ajmal usually bowls his overs at the death but he might have to bowl two overs early and then save two for the end. He might not get too much opportunity against Gayle as he generally bowls at the death and Gayle being a smart campaigner might just decide to see him off!!
    My gut feeling is that Pak will again post 190 on the board as they have done in last 2 games but westindies have some quality spinners too unlike Aus and Bang who went for pace instead of spin. Aus cus they dont have any quality spinners and Bang probably cus Afridi got into their spinners in Asia Cup but that was a wrong move i feel!
    Pak in my view should open the bowling with Hafeez and Zulfiqar Baber against windies like they did against Aus. That will work out perfectly for them!!
     
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    More like a Gayle preview than key to success :lols
     
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    you are in star sports broadcasting team? :d
     
  4. Shahzad.Firdous
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    They can open the bowling with Hafeez and Zulfiqar Baber like they did against Aus that might be a gud move!
     
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    Mercenary chandtara can u kindly put this up among cricistan articles? just a short piece of my comments and views on knockout match between Pak and windies that will decide which team will go through to the semifinal and which will go to Airport!
     
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    I think Narine and/or Badree will cause more issues for Pakistan than Gayle.

    Simply because only two innings of a note (Umar vs Aus & Shehzad vs BD) mean that our other batsmen are totally out of form or they are incorrect selections. So easy picking for the two spinners from WI.

    I'd be pleasantly surprised if Pak wins this game.
     
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    Agree with u. Shoaib Malik played an important inns today and in india game too he looked gud. When he walked in, Pak was in a bit of trouble and he guided Ahmed Shahzad and took pak out of trouble so he is an important player for Pak for me. Even in india match, once he walked in things became easy for Pak but on that day, Pak early batsmen had batted pak into a hole and Afridi got very little time at the crease for me!
     
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    A lot also depends on when Pakistan bat. If they're chasing then a loss would be almost imminent.
     
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    We handled the West Indies extremely well the last time we played them in the Caribbean, Expecting a good game.
     
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    When Malik came to bat, Shehzad had just completed his 50 in 30 balls. How does an totally out of form batman who has scored only 2 50s in his own last 70+ innings in all three format can guide a batsman who had already scored a 30 ball 50?


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    And then goes on to score only 10 runs in 12 balls where as Shehzad scores 22 in his 10 balls with Malik.

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    If Malik did guide Shahzad in batting as you said, then I would love to have Malik use the same words of advice for himself and score some decent runs at decent S/R.
     
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    yes if Windies gets around 170-180 then Narine Badree can make it tough for our young batsmen like Ahmed Shahzad, Umar Akmal and others even though they have got a century each or around that for umar akmal
     
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    But what about the senior batsmen like Malik? They should have no problem scoring vs WI spinners and "guide" younger batsmen like Shehzad as Malik did today. Agree?
     
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    even t20s is not all about hitting big shots all the time u need one batsman who can rotate the strike and is ur plan b when wkts fall and in the middle overs he is there for u to allow hitters like Afridi to hit towards the end and i think Malik did his job and role perfectly!! He got 26 off 22 in the end! The time he had walked in some wkts had gone down very quickly and he did the rebuilding and allowed Ahmed Shahzad to play his natural game and he took the back seat role! Whenever Malik walks in he looks so confident that he is always a calming influence on the whole team as long as he stays at the wkt! He is ur "the senior batsman"!! Although i think he is very limited with respect to his technique against moving ball against pacers specially new ball when its moving Malik is very shaky and he finds it difficult against teams like SA and Aus if he is sent up the order against them but against spin he is the king!!
     
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    Its a one off anything can happen
     
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    Agreed... Pakistan aren't as good players of spinners now... Which means we would have trouble with Narine and Badree...

    Gayle has never been a big danger for us, and hopefully won't be here as well... Spinners are the key... :)
     
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    T20 is not all about hitting "big shots" but it is most certainly about "scoring runs via boundaries" and boundariesdon't have to come via Afridi or Maxwell like sixes. They mostly come from 4s like Kohli.

    T20 is not all about hitting "big shots" but it is most certainly about Strike Rates of 125+.

    Being an experience batsman, Malik needs to be able to do everything.

    Above all cricket is also about scoring runs. In last 4 years, being a specialist and senior has scored only 1 50 in 54 innings at an average of 18.
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/42657.html?class=11;spanmin1=30 Mar 2010;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

    Can you please give us one example where a specialist batsman who has numbers these bad?


    I am sorry, confidence does not win matches. Runs and wickets do. I would rather have a totally nervious batsmen who scores a little more runs than Malik over a confident Malik who is scoring at the rate I showed you above.

    So if he is shaky and does not have technique vs moving ball then why play him at all? Is the plan to drop him against the teams and venue where the ball move and only play where ball does not move? Which batsman would you suggest that you play against SA and Aus against moving ball?

    This is his performance vs teams that do not "move the ball" at flat pitches venues. See anything eye catching?

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    By the way, here is his "king like" performance against spinners in last 4 years.

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    this match is up in the air a pure 50/50 chance... the team that will make the first mistake will lose... simple as that... we need hafeez to grow some Kahoona's and play a captain's knock... its his turn next... even Malik did a 26(23)...

    we need to win the toss and chase down the target...
     
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    In all honesty Malik did the right thing.

    Out of form and just rotating the strike, Fair he couldn't go to the next gear as he's an experienced campaigner and should have but he made sure the man on the other end didn't succumb to pressure and hit out completely.
     
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    Simple: get Gayle out early. And play sharjeel and bhatti instead of Malik and tanvir.
     
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    sharjeel can play in place of kamran akmal and in place of tanveer we could play Junaid or Talha
     
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    gul can stop windies
     
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    Gul will bowl one over in powerplay and 3 at the end so how can he stop Gayle onslaught early? In my view we should pick Talha in place of Tanveer and open the bowling with Zulfiqar Baber and Hafeez. Bring Gul and Ajmal for one over. Bring Afridi into the attack bowl one over of Talha the 8th. Bowl out Afridi and bowl Zulfiqar for 2 overs and Hafeez for one over from the other end. Bring back Gul and Ajmal at the death. If Hafeez or any other bowler has gone for runs, Talha should bowl one more over or as in Aus game case, we needed a pacer to bowl the last over as Gul was finished so there we need one over of Talha!!
     
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    don't worry.Pak is winning easily.Windies can't play quality spin to save their lives
     
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    Sammy clueless against the magician. Also a killa doosra for his 2nd wicket.

     
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    no i m in cricistan broadcasting team LOL
     
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    gul strikes pak win simple theory
     
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    one key would be to allow players to play their natural game and play a strong positive and aggressive game... no tinkering etc... not even dropping Malik... oh god i threw up on that one...
     
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    Bat well and get Gayle and SAmmy out cheaply
     
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    Take care of narine, badree, santokie, and get gayle and sammy out , thats what everyone is saying and thats where the game will be decided.
     

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