Mohd Amir fiasco... Why always Waqar Younus hired as Coach? Why they never try Wasim/Shoaib?

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  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shahzad.Firdous Cornered Tiger

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    Amir ke case mein mujhe Misbah ka qasoor nahi nazar araha... Jab bhi yeh Coach dhoondhne nikalte hein Waqar Younus ko pakar kar le aate hein bhai kabhi Wasim Akram aur Shoaib Akhtar ko bhi chance de kar dekho... Agar Waqar Younus Coaching nahi kar pa raha to Wasim ya Shoaib ko chance dein.. Team haar bowling ki waja se hi rahi hai baki departments to sahi function kar rahe hein....
     
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    Shoaib should be given a go
     
  3. thair9999
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    1. Wasim was asked many time and refused. Head Coach is responsible for the team and have the authority to override coaches under him, so yes Misbah is responsible of everything.

    2. Regarding Amir, he is given more leeway then anyone else, now he is acting like crybaby. Because he can now play easy T20 leagues and make money so does not care.

    3. No all departments are doing bad.
      1. 7 drop catches in 1 inning = bad fielding.
      2. 4 innings with 186, 297. 239 & 271 = Batting is very bad.
      3. 21 wicket out of 40, yeah bowling is bad, although not as much. If those catches were taken.
     
  4. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Bowling ka yeh trend sirf is tour per nahi hai... Last 16 months ki bowling performance utha kar dekh lein be it Australia, England or New Zealand or any other series, bowling is conceding huge totals... Batting is posting decent totals consistently not a single failure like 36 Allout anywhere so batting is consistent but bowling is consistently conceding 400-500 totals... Catches drop sirf 1 innings mein hue hein...
     
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    Maybe because both Akram and Akhtar have had a few controversies in the past. Akram with fixing and Akhtar with all sorts. I doubt this is the reason though. Pakistanis forget very easily
     
  6. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Controversies past mein hein... why dont pcb move on? Those were playing days.. they were young... Now, they are old and mature enough... Playing days mein har koi aisa hota hai...
     
  7. Shahzad.Firdous
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    In my opinion, both Misbah and Waqar are not doing a bad job... All they need is time imo... Nobody is willing to give time... neither to PM, nor to Misbah, nor to Waqar nor to me... Everyone needs 2 yrs to turn things whether PM, Misbah, Waqar or myself...
     
  8. Shahzad.Firdous
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    But as far as Amir episode is concerned, I stand with Mohd Amir... freedom jab tak aap player ko nahi do ge perform nahi kar sakta player... whether it is Waqar or Misbah...
     
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    Englad:
    1st test: 326 & 169
    2nd Test: 236
    3rd Test: 273 & 187​
    Australia:
    1st test: 240 & 335
    2nd Test: 302 & 239
    These are not decent totals. There were also 2 FOs by the way.
     
  10. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Wasim Akram is on the record stating that he does not want the coaching job.
    And I not only agree with him but appreciate his honesty.
    He knows he is not a good coach. And hardly ever a great player is a good coach.

    Aur Shoaib Akhtar aik pagal aadmi hai - a self centered narcissist who does not have a stable personality or patience and a wise approach to do things - uskay paindu kisam k jazbaat he khattam nahi hotay - wo kisi ko kia sikhaeyga?

    Coaching requires an EXTREMELY GOOD “MAN MANAGEMENT” SKILLS in a trust worthy relationship with the player where coach is a father figure who is patient wise and intelligent.

    The player should trust the coach who is easily approachable and the player can express his thoughts freely.

    Hum desiyon mein quality sirray sey hai he nahi. We are the worst admins and the worst leaders but we could be great work horses.

    Yahaan hamaray young players coach sey Darray he rehtay hain k agar Wiki “Bhai” ko naraaz kar diya tou Team mein jaga nahi banaygi. Iss hur waqt wiki Bhai ki tattay chuki hoti rehti hai.


    If we really and truly want a good coach for our pace bowlers then we need to contact Tim MacCaskill in Australia and Mike Watkinson in England (donow naam yaad karlo) to arrange a week long camp every six months in Dubai, England or Australia where our Pace bowlers can meet them and train and get reconditioned by these great Coaches.

    And when these players come home, they must teach to the youngsters as to whatever they have learned from Tim and Mike.

    The is the most effective and cost friendly way to get the job done!

    We don’t need to spend millions of Rs to hire a permanent idiot like Waqar who is absolute worse in coaching technical skills or having any man management skills. He is a TOTAL PAINDU!
     
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  11. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Batting ke dekhe bowling ka bhi dekhein kitne runs concede kiye hein aap ko pata chal jayega,... 3 tours ke stats nikalein... these are decent totals... they did not fold for 36 like india anywhere...
     
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    187 per 4 out the... last England innings mein..
     
  13. thair9999
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    You can't keep on judging based on just 1 poor performance in years. India is #2 team, why don't you mention that and compare it with our abysmal performances for many many years now.
     
  14. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Bhai India No. 2 is liye hai cus 10 saal tak Captain Dhoni tha.. 5 saal se Captain Kohli hai... Humare yehan kisi ko tikne hi nahi dete.. kisi ko lamba tenure hi nahi dete... short time mein koi bhi results deliver nahi kar sakta mere bhai.. humari quom buhat short sighted hai imo... mujhe clients bhi aise hi milte hein emergency mein aate hein ke lawyer unka masla hal kar de bas,... bhai phele risk assess karna parta hai case samajhna parta .. experiment karna parta hai sops follow karne parte hein jab ja kar kisi case ka solution nikalta hai yehi formula har cheez mein apply hota hai be it cricket team or the country.. Mulk chalana kis tarah hai woh to ab pata chala hai Imran Khan ko... Abhi tak to woh firefighting kar raha tha aur cheezon ko grip mein laane ki koshish kar raha tha 1 ke baad 1 crisis aata gaya hai... Same with Misbah...
     
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    Sure I can hire a lawyer for 5 years how can assess the situation that I will be having a problem after 5 years so there will be no emergency need for a lawyer!!!!
    Do you present similar kind of arguments in front of the Judge?
    Judge Shaib: Mara client bayksoor hai, us ko 5 saal plahey hee pata tha key woh car ka accident karay gaa, us nay mujh ko hire kia tha key main plahey risk assess karonoo aur High Court main domestic kee tarah ragra lagaa kar learn kar loon, main phir bohat bara lawyer banoo gah.
    You sound like the Tumph Supporter who can't see the truth in front of their eyes.
     
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