My performance in Australia not outstanding, but was okay: Hafeez

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    Allrounder Mohammad Hafeez has said he was satisfied with his recent ODI performances in Australia - although "it wasn't outstanding" - because he felt under pressure on two fronts: he was making a comeback to the team and it was his first series with a remodelled action, ESPNcricinfo reported.

    Hafeez wasn't selected in the original ODI squad for the Australia tour but was called up a few days later because Azhar Ali got injured. He scored a match winning half-century in Melbourne to lead Pakistan to their only win on the tour, but finished with 123 runs in five innings at a strike rate of 72.

    In the PSL that followed, Hafeez made only 153 runs at a strike rate of 99 in nine innings - 77 came in one game - during Peshawar Zalmi's run to the title. However, he was retained in the ODI squad and recalled to the T20I side for the upcoming tour of the Caribbean.

    "My performance in Australia wasn't outstanding, but I felt it was okay," Hafeez said in Lahore, when asked if he had expected to be retained. "I was under pressure for two reasons - one because it was my comeback as a player, and secondly because it was my first series back as a bowler. Though I couldn't get wickets, I felt I bowled according to the situation and my economy was quite good, which helped the team.

    "In the PSL, my role wasn't defined properly and my position in the batting order changed, but that is not an excuse. I did struggle and my performances weren't strong enough. But when selectors opt for a player, they look at the conditions and requirements in the team. I am happy they have given me the responsibility and trusted me.

    "If you look at my numbers, I think I deserve to be in the Pakistan team. In the last two years, I think I have played 28 to 29 matches and averaged 38 in ODIs. I have always believed that a few matches, or one or two series, don't justify your talent. Good and bad days do come but when you are a proven player, you surely get more chances."

    When asked about Pakistan players' reluctance to retire, Hafeez said he would not hang around if he felt he wasn't able to perform. "I will definitely think about [retirement] when my time comes. I am 36 right now. I believe that my performances and fitness are justifying my place for Pakistan. I will only play until I feel I can match the level of performances I expect of myself."

    Hafeez reiterated his views about corruption, saying that guilty players should be banned for life. In 2015, he reportedly turned down an offer to play for Chittagong Vikings in the BPL because Mohammad Amir, who was returning from a five-year ban for spot-fixing, was on the team. Hafeez had also been reluctant to train with Amir but has played with the fast bowler since. Pakistan cricket recently suffered another blow when a corruption scandal hit the PSL. Sharjeel Khan, Khalid Latif, Mohammad Irfan, Shahzaib Hasan and Nasir Jamshed were provisionally suspended by the PCB in relation to the case.

    "Everyone can have their opinion but mine is strong," Hafeez said. "I have stood by it for all my life and it is a principled stance. It wasn't for or against any individual. The stance was simple: whoever hurts the reputation of Pakistan and is proven guilty shouldn't get that respect back. I am not a policy maker but what we are facing now is very painful.

    "Whoever plays for Pakistan is responsible for upholding the respect that he gets on an individual level. And if someone tells me that it was a mistake, I don't consider it a mistake; it's a crime. So this thing coming up again is painful for me and for the whole country, so it is high time that a stern decision is made about players who have been proven guilty to set an example for others."

    http://nation.com.pk/sports/19-Mar-...australia-not-outstanding-but-was-okay-hafeez
     
  2. Energy
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    Can someone slap him please? And then say it was okay.
     
  3. SwingNSeam
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    zkhan427 Cricistani

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    makes 20 excuses and then says no excuses
     
  5. Del
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    Easily the most shameless person Pakistan cricket has produced in recent times.
     
  6. Rhythm
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    When Hafeez has twitter celebrities like @Passionate Pakistani backing him up no wonder he's gonna be cocky and keep getting selected
     
  8. Passionate Pakistani
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    Yaar he has blocked me on twitter lol

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  9. Patriot
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    Talks like a Champ, performs like me
     
  10. Del
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    Did you said something against him? That's why Ahmed Shehzad blocked me.

    These guys can't bear criticism at all.
     
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    I dont know i think i said something about him chucking or blessed in all facets

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  12. Del
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    hahaha, no wonder he blocked you.

    As I said, these mokes don't have stomach to digest criticism.
     
  13. Shahzad.Firdous
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    @SwingNSeam Hafeez won us the only match we won on the tour that too as Captain!!
     
  14. Del
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    He was lucky to survive in initial burst from Aussie bowlers, could've been back at 0.

    Yes, his captaincy was well but does it give me a licence to be part of playing XI?

    Is he the same bowler which he was pre-ban - Uncheck.
    Is he an opener - Uncheck.
    Can he play at no.3 or 4 - Uncheck.
    Is he a good fielder - Uncheck.
    Is he a good skipper with good cricketing acumen - check.

    Don't think he should get anymore leeway only because of one check out of five.

    BTW: I reckon you should make "SwingNSeam" part of your signature, because you almost always tag him. It'll be easier this way.
     
  15. Shahzad.Firdous
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    He won Zalmi a match with his bowling in PSL as well. His initial spell was the reason Karachi was restricted to only 120!!
     
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    lol at his bowling - Yeah, the same bowling Sammy had next to nothing trust. So you're right there bro.

    After all he offers nothing but these one in 10 games performances.
     
  17. Shahzad.Firdous
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    He still has utility provided he is used as a 6th bowler like he was during Afridi Ajmal era and not as a 5th bowler like present!
     
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    With Imad and going forward Shadab in the side, I don't see any value of this bowling anymore, which is powerless any every sense since post-ban.
     
  19. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Imad ki to jaga hi nahi banti is team mein! Asghar should be picked in place of Imad. Shadab should be picked in playing 11 in odis and t20s aur Shadab aur Asghar 4th aur 5th bowler hein Hafeez is your 6th bowler!!
     
  20. Del
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    Bas kertain uncle...Imad is better option that the 'Golden boy' hands down.
     
  21. Del
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    If memory services me correctly, then wasn't it Woolmer who started to pick Malik, Mackfeez and Afridi over specialist spinners. Not sure what was the rational behind but it was a backward step in my book.

    Why? because when Akram was at the helm, he never sacrificed bowling (perhaps learned it from Imran). Rather he use to add options with all-rounders. Usually his teams had 4 bowlers - himself. Where he opens bowling with Waqar/Sohaib, 2 of Mushtaq as specialist spinners (both off spinner and leggi) and 1/2 (Razzaq/Azhar) all-rounders, were quite decent with ball.

    Have so much varity in your bowling attack with make sure that you'll win games 8 out of 10 times batting first. Another reason behind this "bowling heavy side" ideology was that he was a bowling captain, his entire focus was to get batsmen out rather than containment, hence he went for more wicket taking options.

    The above bold part is the significant different in between today vs. 80's/90's.
     
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    I dont know about Hafeez but regarding Razzaq and Afridi, Woolmer used to say that combine of Razzaq and Afridi gives me one top quality batsman and a top quality bowler.

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    And that's where he messed up the ideology and initial combination.

    He introduced this thought process of picking sacrificed bowling options for batting depth, particularly for spinners. And this trend latter on help Malik and Hackfeez in particular.
     
  24. Shahzad.Firdous
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    I am the most vocal supporter of playing 5 specialist bowlers and an allrounder but I would support Woolmer cus likes of Afridi, Razzaq and Malik/ Hafeez were top quality allrounders and Hafeez used to play as 6th bowler not as 5th bowler but here what we are doing is making Hafeez into 5th bowler and Malik into 6th, this is where we are having trouble! Previous Coach Waqar Younus and current coach Mickey Arthur are dropping a specialist bowler for an extra batsman~!~ This would never work!!
     
  25. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Woolmer had quality allrounders therefore he took this step but real mess was created by Waqar Younus and now Arthur!
     
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    Only Afridi, Razzaq and Azhar could be compared with the likes of other world class all-rounders. But still their performers were up and down in patches. The main job of our all-rounders was to be steady enough with ball to allow rest to Akram, Akhtar, Waqar etc.

    Mediocre all-rounders can work when you have a core team of match-winning specialist batsmen and bowlers. They cannot work when the rest of your team is mediocre (i.e. Pakistan odi cricket right now).
     
  28. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Thats exactly what I have been advocating for for last so many years and I used to consistently criticize Waqar Younus for dropping specialist bowler for extra batsman whereas it should be other way round!! Bowlers win you matches and not the batsmen!!
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  29. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shoaib Malik version 1.0 was also great during that period!!
     
  30. Del
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    As same goes for Hackfeez. He best years from 2011-2014 are long gone, and now how he doesn't bring much to the table.

    In fact, if I were to choose in between these two, then I'll pick Malik. Yes, he doesn't possess fire game, but who else does in the current line up (please don't bring Sharjeel because it will derail the discussion)? Recently he has played some useful cameos which helped Pakistan. But it doesn't give him warrant to be part of playing XI. He's playing only because his replacements were not good enough his return after WC 2015 and coaches since 2015 like him.
     
  31. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shoaib Malik and Hafeez are more of 6th bowlers as compared to someone like Afridi who is a 5th bowler as Malik and Hafeez dont have as much variety as Afridi. Afridi, despite all his shortcomings had variety with the ball and he was effective in middle overs. Batsmen always had to take a risk to get a single off Afridi!!
     
  32. Del
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    It was true for Afridi till 2013/2014 only. Wasn't the case latter.
     
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    yaar kaaaaaun ho tum ... kaha say laatay ho stats ? Haheez in and imad out .. this whole seniority and 90s mindset needs to go away.
     
  34. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Hafeez imad ki jaga nahi aaya! Hafeez is the 6th bowler which is the requirement of the team whereas Imad used to play as 5th bowler but we have found a better option in his place in Asghar!!
     
  35. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Sammy used Hafeez very efficiently that's why Zalmi won the title. In the first game, he did not use him which was a crime but later on he used him superbly.
    Hafeez was used with the new ball when there was a left hander at the crease and when there were two right handers, Sammy went with left armers like Asghar and Shakib.
     
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    Yes and this was he potential - against left hand batsmen. And every witnessed that he wasn't effective against lefties as he was pre-ban.
     
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    Hacfeez is inferior to both of them - they should play ahead of him.

    We don't need him as 6th bowling option anymore, we're more options, what part of this you don't understand uncle?
     
  38. Shahzad.Firdous
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    On one hand, you are asking for specialist bowlers. On the other end, you dont want a 6th bowler. 6th bowler provides an option to the Captain in case someone is having an off-day and he does chip in with 5 overs every match to provide some variety to the bowling attack.
     
  39. Del
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    With Malik and Imad in the side, you don't need 6th bowler - specially a baggage like Hackfeez.
     
  40. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Hafeez is a better bowler than Malik. Malik can play as a batsman and his bowling is not good enough even for 6th bowler!! He will only bowl if required!
     

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