Pakistan squad for Asia Cup announced; Hafeez and Imad excluded

Discussion in 'Cricket Talk' started by Ahson8, Sep 4, 2018.

Pakistan squad for Asia Cup announced; Hafeez and Imad excluded

Discussion in 'Cricket Talk' started by Ahson8, Sep 4, 2018.

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Discussion in 'Cricket Talk' started by Ahson8, Sep 4, 2018.

    1. mohsin88ali
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      Why this squad includes Shaan Masood?
      It already has imam and Fakher as openers..
      I hope he does nothing but to warm the benches.

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    2. Munna
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      No Hafeez and Imad Wasim. So good exclusions

      But Shan Masood?
       
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      Seeing no Kohli for this tournament... Hafeez decided to give himself a rest too. Legend!
       
    5. Shahzad.Firdous
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      1. Imad
      2. Fakhar
      3. Babar
      4. Shoaib Malik
      5. Harris Sohail
      6. Sarfraz
      7. Shadab
      8. Fahim
      9. Amir
      10. Hassan
      11. Shaheen / Shinwari/ Junaid
       
    6. Ahson8
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      Imad isn’t in the squad. I guess you meant Imam..

      Asif Ali isn’t getting dropped, which means Haris has to sit out
       
    7. Shahzad.Firdous
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      yes i meant imam!
       
    8. Shahzad.Firdous
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      1. Imam
      2. Fakhar
      3. Babar
      4. Shoaib Malik
      5. Sarfraz
      6. Asif Ali
      7. Shadab
      8. Fahim
      9. Amir
      10. Hassan
      11. Junaid
      This will be the eleven selected most probably!
       
    9. Shahzad.Firdous
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      Fahim ki jaga shayad Nawaz ko khilayen
       
    10. ComradeVenom
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      No Kohli so Pakistan decide to also rest Hafeez.
       
    11. Del
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      So what does it mean? Is it the end of his carrier? I mean if he's not selected for a tournament in UAE then where else will you opt him?
       
    12. Ahson8
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      Shinwari will probably start over Junaid
       
    13. ComradeVenom
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      Dont need him against minnows like India. He will be selected for the WC
       
    14. Blackfyre
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      Hopefully it is the end of his career!
       
    15. Del
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      Actually I am a bit skeptical about his selection in WC too but, given the fact how brutally he has been treated in past few months since CT.

      I know where you're coming from when you said that he'll be selected for WC, same country as CT and same conditions, however there have been changes in that CT squad compared to what we have today.

      Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if he wouldn't be selected for WC.
       
    16. Muhammad8279
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      Rest of the selection is good, but For God Sake, can anyone tell the reason why Shan Masood is selected in ODI Squad?
       
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      No doubt, Pakistan is the most favorite team for Asia Cup 2018 contest, even if Kohli was the part of the Indian team.

      Pakistan may win this cup but shan masood :(.

      Shan Masood Asia Cup 2018 = Khuram Mazoor in T20 World Cup 2016

      Don't know why Selectors do such a stupid decisions in mega events.
       
    19. Del
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      Relax, he might now even will play if Imam wouldn't disappoint.

      I heard he's selected due to his domestic performance, and this is why I don't look too much into domestic stats. They play like a don in domestic and becomes sheeps in intl.
       
    20. Del
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      Pakistan leaves Hafeez and Imad out of Asia Cup cricket squad

      LAHORE: Pakistan left all-rounders Mohammad Hafeez and Imad Wasim out of a 16-man squad for the six-nation Asia Cup, to be played in Dubai and Abu Dhabi from next week, selectors announced Tuesday.

      But left-handed opener Shan Masood gets his first chance in Pakistan´s one-day squad after scoring 1,200-plus runs in the two domestic one-day tournaments, chief selector Inzamam-ul-Haq said.

      The 28-year-old has so far played 12 Tests for Pakistan.

      Sarfraz Ahmed will lead the side, which opens their Cup campaign against the wildcard entrant on September 16 before taking on arch-rivals India in a highly-anticipated match three days later. Both rounds are in Dubai.

      Hafeez, 37 was part of Pakistan´s 5-0 one-day series win in Zimbabwe in July, but was not played in any of the matches.

      "We conducted fitness tests and since there is no compromise on fitness we have not included Hafeez and Imad Wasim," Inzamam told media while announcing the squad in Lahore.

      The Asia Cup begins September 15 and features India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and a qualifier team.

      Six teams -- Hong Kong, Singapore, Nepal, United Arab Emirates, Oman and Malaysia -- are currently facing off in Kuala Lumpur to secure the final berth.

      Cup teams are divided in two groups. Two sides are culled for the Super Four rounds, after which the top two finishers go to the September 28 final in Dubai.

      Squad: Sarfraz Ahmed (captain), Fakhar Zaman, Imam-ul-Haq, Shan Masood, Babar Azam, Shoaib Malik, Asif Ali, Haris Sohail, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Nawaz, Faheem Ashraf, Hasan Ali, Mohammad Amir, Junaid Khan, Usman Khan Shinwari and Shaheen Shah Afridi

      https://www.geo.tv/latest/209865-pakistan-leaves-hafeez-out-of-asia-cup-cricket-squad
       
    21. Del
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    22. Del
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      I know many eyebrows are raised on Shan's selection (mine included) but I reckon his selection is based on his List A stats and based on following numbers, he warrants selection.

      upload_2018-9-4_15-47-5.png

      I haven't seen Pakistan cup, Pentangular cup or other tournaments, therefore know absolutely zilch what has changed in his game and technique. Also how was bowling quality he played against and how many times he batted 2nd and performed well.
      However, based on his Test performance, I am not convinced that he's capable of handling quality bowling at any venue. Just changing format can't hide one's ineptness.

      However, I hate to say but since there isn't much competition for opening slot, therefore, based on above stats he has been opted. Furthermore, his fitness level is good and also possess communication skills, due to which, I reckon Mickey likes him.
       
    23. Mohan
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      Impressed with Inzi, he is doing a fantastic job.

      Hafeez was a major contributor in the CT final, yet the selectors have the vision to look ahead. They pick deserving youngsters like Imam, Fahim, Asif Ali, Nawaz and Shaheen, while on the other hand, our brilliant folks cannot look beyond Dhoni kaka, and the same recycled trash of Rayudu/Jadhav/Karthik.

      I really hope we lose not only to Pak but also to Bangladesh and SL. Team India needs a massive revamp but nobody seems to care.
       
    24. mohsin88ali
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      Thanks on behalf of Inzi and co.

      And what should those changes be in your opinion?

      Alternatively, you can post a "your opinion XI" to show us the personnel changes you want.

      Sent from knowhere
       
    25. Mohan
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      Dhoni definitely should not be anywhere near the team. He lost his ability with the bat two years ago. A proper momentum sucker whenever he comes to the crease.

      Rayudu's strike rate in ODIs is 76. Another momentum sucker and a talentless hack. Why do you need him in the shorter formats?

      Jadhav is like 34 years old, not exactly a youngster. Why do you need an oldie in the middle order? Specially when he has no performances of note.

      We need to pick some under 19 guys, like Pakistan are doing. But our selectors have no clue because they are not worthy of picking the national team. This is what their playing experience look like:

      MSK Prasad (Chairman) - Played 6 test matches and 17 ODIs for India.

      Devang Gandhi - Played 4 test matches and 3 ODIs for India.

      Sarandeep Singh - Played 3 test matches and 5 ODIs for India.

      Jatin Paranjpe - Played 0 test matches and 4 ODIs for India.

      Gagan Khoda - Played 0 test matches and 2 ODIs for India.

      These guys were never good players themselves, so their eye for talent is pathetic.

      The entire BCCI hierarchy needs a massive change, which won't happen till the CoA is calling the shots. They just don't have a clue.
       
    26. mohsin88ali
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      This baffles me as well, i mean, India has amazing batting talent, why stick with the likes of Rydu?
      Should give chance to guys like Pant, Shaw etc. (Basically the top order of Delhi Daredevils)
      Sanju Samson is another one that deserves a solid run.

      *says in a Ron Simmons voice* DAMN.

      These selectors are like Zakir Khan and salahudin salu of India.

      I think that the success of team India during the last decade and half has made BCCI complacent. Then there is also the Juggernaut that is the IPL.
      If they hadn't become arrogant, i would have been surprised.

      Sent from knowhere
       
    27. Phenom
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      Would have liked a proper spinner in place of Nawaz but overall a very good squad.
       
    28. Shahzad.Firdous
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      In limited overs cricket, you generally prefer all-rounders!
       
    29. Shahzad.Firdous
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      1. Imam
      2. Fakhar
      3. Babar
      4. Malik
      5. Sarfraz
      6. Asif
      7. Shadab
      8. Nawaz / Fahim
      9. Amir
      10. Hassan
      11. Shinwari
       
    30. Phenom
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      The key word here is 'allrounder' not bits and pieces cricketers.And we already have a deep batting line up so inclusion of a genuine spinner won't prove to be costly.
       
    31. Shahzad.Firdous
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      India is struggling against spin at the moment.

      1. Imam
      2. Fakhar
      3. Babar
      4. Shoaib Malik
      5. Harris Sohail
      6. Sarfraz
      7. Asif Ali
      8. Shadab
      9. Amir
      10. Hassan
      11. Shinwari
       
    32. Phenom
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      India are a different beast against spin in LOIs
       
    33. Shahzad.Firdous
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      Then go with 4 pacers and Shadab and Malik as bowling attack with Fakhar can chip few overs if required.

      1. Imam
      2. Fakhar
      3. Babar
      4. Malik
      5. Sarfraz
      6. Asif
      7. Shadab
      8. Fahim / Nawaz
      9. Amir
      10. Hassan
      11. Shinwari
      For me, its a tie between Fahim and Nawaz. One of them will play and I think Nawaz will get picked cus its UAE and pitches will support spin more than pace!!
       
    34. Phenom
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      I think they would pick Faheem over Nawaz as he had good series against Zim and we also need a lower order hitter to do the damage alongwith Asif.I don't think Nawaz can provide much with the bat.
       
    35. Shahzad.Firdous
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      Nawaz should play in my opinion cus pitch will favor Nawaz more than Fahim with the ball. Their role with the ball is more important than with the bat!!
       
    36. KingOfDoosra
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      Agreed sir! Fahim is a very overrated player anyway. He can't bat and we already have 3 pacers in Amir Hasan Shaheen.
       
    37. Shahzad.Firdous
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      Thank you for your appreciation but I am myself a little double minded on this one as its a tricky decision for all of us! Four pacers can also pay off and three pacers two spinners is also a good option. In the end, I would say go with Fahim (4 pacers + Shadab + Malik + Fakhar if required). Main issue is Amir and Shinwari bowl with the new ball. Hassan and Shadab bowl as first change. Then what India goes after Nawaz and Malik in the middle overs. Amir and Shinwari will then come back. Hassan will come back. Shadab will come back. Nawaz and Malik might be targeted so I guess Fahim may be a safer option. We can even use Fahim with the new ball to partner Amir. Hassan and Shinwari can take semi new ball. Shadab in the middle overs with pacers on the other end. Malik to bowl couple in the middle overs and then overs shared this is the best way to go. Fahim can be very useful with the new ball with his nippy pace and if he manages to stay accurate and build pressure with the new ball with Amir on the other end!!
       
    38. Shahzad.Firdous
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      First 20 overs should be bowled by pacers in my opinion!
       
    39. mohsin88ali
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      Brilliant team. But do we really need a third spinner when we have Shadab and Malik?
      Faheem can be the second "finisher" after Asif. God knows we need those.

      Sent from knowhere
       

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