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Pakistan Thrashed In Final Group Game By West Indies/Knocked Out Of The WT20 - Post Match Thread

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  1. chandtara
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    chandtara Mr Cricistan

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    From being on top up until the 15th over to slumping to this massive defeat. Just can't get my head around how quickly the momentum shifted towards the West Indies. Some superb hitting from Bravo and Sammy and some absolute garbage death bowling from us and then to top things off a pathetic batting performance. No bottle when it mattered the most. Pakistan are going home. Well played West Indies.

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  2. Pakistan97
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    Badree, Santokie and Narine just got wickets for fun
     
  4. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    To sum up the match Pakistan made 82 runs the exact runs WI made in their last 5 overs.
     
  5. Pakistan97
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    This means if they had been batted second they had been won by 15 overs to spare
     
  6. Fawad
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    Fawad Sultan of Swing

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    Let's face it we all knew the 150+ scores from our batting were an anomaly. Bowling has always been our main strength and we've lost a step or two in T20 bowling tactics.

    Anyways, I wouldn't have been able to take another loss from India in a WC. So maybe this was a better ending to our campaign.
     
  7. superman
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    superman Youngsta Beauty

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    IMO, Gul and Ajmal killed us today. Their two overs, 18th and 19th, went for 45 runs! Then, "professor's" batting was just icing on the cake. We desperately need change in captaincy in all three formats--at the minimum!
     
  8. Fireworks11
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    it is simple.

    we cannot chase high scores in a KO game. One falls, usual capitulation.

    best to not have hope when pak are chasing in KO game, take it as a joke.
     
  9. Top Spinner01
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    Top Spinner01 Tracer Bullet

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    Decent game,windies were the better side in the end,congrats..from Pak perspective i still think junaid khan is our best pacer,win/loss is part & parcel of the game..
     
  10. Mir
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    Mir Youngsta Beauty

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    malik kamran plz send these guyz to exile
    hafeez a fake professor remove him as a captain
     
  11. Rmra Don
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    Rmra Don Youngsta Beauty

    Sep 16, 2012
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    Very very disappointing.... Pakistani team is full of useless players.... we need to filter now... otherwise same thing will happen in 2015...
     
  12. taqvi
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    taqvi Emerging Player

    Feb 5, 2011
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    Now that I am calm, I guess We need to understand that Pakistan has not been the only team that has performed below par. Teams like Australia ( 86 runs ), NZ ( 60 runs ) and specially England ( biggest upset for this T20 WC, scoring 88 runs ) ended up loosing badly.
     
  13. Bilal123
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    Lmao same thing has happened for over 3 decades and will keep happening for as long as cricket is played. lets admit, players are selected based on parchi system and Pakistan will continue to be inconsistent forever
     
  14. Fawad
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    Fawad Sultan of Swing

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    Can't help but think that Pakistan's style and approach to T20 cricket is outdated now and our players are at a major disadvantage not playing in IPL with world's best T20 players.
     
  15. Pakfast
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    Pakfast Talented

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    Australia and England will start reforming their team while the PCB will come out and say that they are apply with the teams performance and hafeez will stay as captain.
     
  16. chandtara
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    chandtara Mr Cricistan

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    Good point that!
    We probably adapted to the game as one of the quickest but a few have overtaken us now. WIndies look a very good T20 unit
     
  17. taqvi
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    taqvi Emerging Player

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    The matter of fact of is that Hafeez is a coward captain, its not about lack of IPL matches is destroying our T20 gameplay. He needs to be dropped, His post match comment was, WIs took the game away from us on those last 4 overs. So he already gave up after Shehzad and Umer went on duck
     
  18. Mycroft Holmes
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    Umar Gul is not to blame per se. Yeah i said it, what of it. Ok he did mess up BUT there was no reason for pakistani batsman to bend over and get raped. Lets say Gul cost them a low run chase, why the **** did they not put up a par score? They are mental midgets who froze on the big stage.
     
  19. MR__KHAN__JI
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    MR__KHAN__JI Talented

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    Why did Hafeez only bowl 2 overs
     
  20. MR__KHAN__JI
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    MR__KHAN__JI Talented

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    Why was Ajmal bowling 18th over
     
  21. MR__KHAN__JI
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    MR__KHAN__JI Talented

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    Why was Hafeez being Mr Dot Ball King
     
  22. MR__KHAN__JI
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    MR__KHAN__JI Talented

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    Why didn't afridi come up the order
     
  23. taqvi
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    taqvi Emerging Player

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    when WI scored 164 , i said to myself its achievable, its T20 but as long as hafeez has the guts to fight, moron was shivering when holding the grip of the bat, he was playing strokes very carefully as if its a test match, he had the same body language when he lost the toss in india match !, his face went dull , when Dhoni said we will bowl first, Hafeez's expression was " Oh shit, now what ?, okay lets see ". look man the bottom line is that when you pull out players like malik and kamran out of now where and abdurazzaq is not selected, it shows very clearly that Hafeez is a dumb ass , coward skipper.
     
  24. Fawad
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    Fawad Sultan of Swing

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    All these sound like exam questions :p
     
  25. MR__KHAN__JI
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    The answers should be straight forward. ...

    But the professor will come up with some complex theories....


    that by dot balling enough and increasing the run rate enough afridi will not be in two minds and can play his natural game later on...

    That by not bowling himself he will instill fear in the opposition that he still has overs to come... so they will go after others giving them wickets. ...

    That by nullifying Ajmal bowling skills through using him in the 18th over it will make the west indies think that spin is a bad option and they won't bowl badree...
     
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    iAd Sultan of Swing

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  28. Pakfast
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    Pakfast Talented

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    Well, with all the anger dying down I guess it's a time for some serious reflection. We were beaten fair and square by an amazing West Indies team. What we need now is some new faces in every department. Kamran, hafeez, Malik gul and a couple of others need to be replaced. It's not like there aren't any new players, they're just not given the chance and confidence by the selectors, team management and our illiterate professor.
     
  29. Captain
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    Captain Youngsta Beauty

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    its okay... its game of cricket + PCB as the topping... :(
     
  30. Passionate Pakistani
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    @najamsethi: I hear you all loud & clear. There will be accountability. But don't forget the same team defeated India in Asia Cup and Australia in T20.

    @najamsethi: Surely there will be accountability. But don't forget Pak is still 5th ranking team in this T20 and Big2 are out!
     
  31. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    Let me answer him on twitter. :nonono
     
  32. 1137moiz
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    Right now Miandad and Akhtar are killing it on TV, absolutely spot on about different points.

    Firstly MashaAllah West Indies played well and we played crap. InshaAllah it won't happen too often but it did yesterday.

    Secondly, this is what happens when you have three bits-and-pieces players (Kamran Akmal, Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik) pretending to be specialist batsmen. I hope everybody who agonized for Kamran's return remembers how often he fails as a so-=called top order batsman.

    Secondly Umar Gul loses his nerve way too easily for a veteran bowler. Saeed Ajmal also lost it the other night (and I agree with Passionate Pakistani about his statements being too frequent, it was cute at first but it happens too often imho), however it was also stupendous hitting and so I could understand that, especially for Ajmal who performs really well mostly.

    Surprisingly Shahid Afridi has been very good lately and consistent too. I wouldn't bet against a return to captaincy
     
  33. Fawad
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    Fawad Sultan of Swing

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    Afridi, Hafeez and Malik seem to be cut from the same cloth (Below average batsmen, once in a blue moon bowlers)
     
  34. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    Afridi is a consistent bowler not like the other two.
     
  35. Fawad
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    Fawad Sultan of Swing

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    Not so black and white between Afridi & Hafeez. Here.

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  36. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    I said bowler and you can clearly see who is the better bowler.
     
  37. Fawad
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    Fawad Sultan of Swing

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    Only as a bowler, Afridi won't make it in a lineup, just like Hafeez with only the bat.

    Afridi can be classified as a Bowling AR, while Hafeez can be called a Batting AR. Most teams don't have more than one allrounder in the lineup.
     
  38. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    Hafeez is crap and unless we get rid of him we won't make any progress.
     
  39. Fawad
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    Fawad Sultan of Swing

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    Averaging 48 in ODIs (in last year) as a top order batsman is no joke. Besides, there are lots of fans who think the same about Afridi.
     
  40. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    Lol comparing Afridi with Hafeez?

    Afridi is a match winner while Hafeez is a match loser. He is averaging 48 because he thumped some minnows and scored some centuries on the roads of UAE. He can never ever play under pressure and his legs start shaking at the first sight of pressure.
     

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