Pakistani spinners v Indian spinners v West Indies spinners

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  1. Passionate Pakistani
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    Both teams have some quality spinners, currently Narine & Badree are number 1 & 2 in ICC T20 rankings. Samules is also not a bad spinner & Gayle can also bowl economically.

    Comapare this to Pakistani Spinners, Ajmal,Hafeez,Afridi & Zulfi.

    What do you think which team spin attack is more potent ?



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  2. Pakistan97
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    I think both have awesome Spinnern, but the Pakistani spinners are more special because of the variety
     
  3. ASLI-PATHAN
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    Badree is not some special bowler. Narine just bowls the straighter ball more often than not.

    Pakistani spinners all the way.
     
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    Apart from Narine no other WI spinner is special. I think Pak has more variety and experience and would be harder to score against. Main thing vs WI will be is how each teams batters respond to the choke. Whoever can pull through will win
     
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    we can break this down bowler vs bowler.

    so narine vs ajmal - ajmal wins
    badree vs afridi - afridi for me personally
    gayle or samuels vs hafeez - hafeez' record speaks for itself, hes very good in t20

    just for good measure babar will wipe the floor with whoever they have left.

    Problem for us will be if they string together 2-3 good overs, how will our batsmen respond...
     
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    Badree is very under rated .. He opens the bowling and is a very good bowler ..was their key bowler in last worldcup as well.
     
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    Completely agree. A leg spinner opening the bowling and bowling consistently is a big achievement.

    Overall Pakistan spinners are better because of the experience.
     
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    Badree isn't a proper leg spinner, he's a medium pacer who happens to bowl from the back of his hand, no doubt about his effectiveness though, I rate him very high.

    Pakistan spin attack wins hands down.
     
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    Energy bro

    You can change title & Op by making it a three way competition between Pakistani,Windies & Indian Spinners.

    Indian Spinners are also very good in this format.
     
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    Actually Indian spinners are more dangerous as compared to Windies.
     
  11. shahbaz
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    Ajmal Paji is more capable and better than the whole WI TEAM spinners.I cannot match him with anyone,he is special.
     
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    True. Pak made Mishra look like Warne, now Badree will be Warne 2.0, He's a good bowler and I can see Pak struggling against him.
    On positive note Pak has an edge in pace department if Gul bowls like he did vs Aussies
     
  13. Don Corleone
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    We will make any leg spinner or left arm orthodox spinner seem like the best in the world.
     
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    Badree is a quality bowler and is better than Afridi!
    Narine is on par with Ajmal but Ajmal is better death bowler!
     
  15. WaQaReD!
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    the west indian spinners pretty much are indian lol Badree and Narine must be of Indian descent?

    why is it west indian 'indians' such as chanderpaul, rampaul, sarwan, narine etc etc are all likeable people but the indian players on the whole(excluding a handful over the years such as dhoni, ganguly, dravid) are about as likeable as coming across a bacon sandwich at a white school friends birthday party
     
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    Naraine, Badree and Mishra are pretty much very comparable to Pakistani attack.


    Ashwin is worthless in ODIs and T20s. I don't know how and why Jadeja takes so many wickets. I think, he bowls very few bad balls as oppose to a lot of wicket taking balls. On a unresponsive wicket, he does not take wickets but yet economical.

    Judging by Mishra and Badree's success, I strongly believe we need to groom Karamat Ali or Usman Qadir to take over from Ajmal and Afridi when after retire.
     
  17. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Pakistani spin attack can not be compared with any other spin attack of the world! We are the best in the business!!
     
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    Ajmal to yaar Ajmal hai he does it day in and day out never tires!!
     
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    Lol too much bias here and you guys are pretending as if Pakistani spinners are running through other teams.

    Narine & Badree are ranked number 1 & 2 for a reason.
     
  20. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Pakistani spinners have earned this reputation through years of gud work! Ashwin, Mishra, Jadeja, Narine, Badree ye sab kal ke bache hain Ajmal, Afridi, Hafeez aur Zulfiqar ragra kha kar aaye hain they are simply great!! Aur Ajmal to jadugar hai!!
     
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    Lol at jadugar.. I never said he isn't the great or greatest right now, obviously he is the best and most consistent across all formats against all teams but completely writing off others is silly.

    With due respect, but afridi isn't the same bowler ( t20 ) which he used to be around 2007-2010.. His bowling is good but no way near worldclass and get phainta every now and then.

    Zulfi has yet to prove himself.. Playing handful games doesn't make you great lol.

    Narine has been around for a while and has been very good, Badree is the most under rated spinner in the world, he was their key bowler in last WC as well. Narine & Badree both have economy under 6 which is excellent in this format.

    Overall Pakistan has better attack but windies aren't that bad either..
     
  22. Shahzad.Firdous
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    jab pressure aayega na jab pata chale ga!! Same Afridi bowled a superb spell to bring Pak back in to the game after our bowling was completely destroyed by Maxwell. Pak spinners delivered under pressure!! aur indian spinners ache hain but abhi itne bare nahi hue Afridi to Ashwin. Zulfiqar Baber ka saalon ka domestic ka experience hai and there is such a tough competition for places between Rehman, Zulfiqar and Raza Hassan that Rehman choked under that pressure and bowled beamers. So if Zulfiqar he is playing he has got a reputation too in Pak cricket circles!! Hafeez was rated No. 1 in odis and t20 bowlers rankings some time ago and he is a limited overs specialist. Point is these guys always deliver when pressure is on!!
     
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    :S Afridi isn't a worldclass bowler than how on the face of earth badre is in the world class bowlers list.I dont even consider him a proper bowler perhaps a tukka bowler to be more appropriate.
     
  24. Bruce Wayne
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    Pakistan lead by far due to their experience, Leading the charts in the all time bowlers column and also the impact they have.

    West Indies spinners are still quite underrated in this format.
     
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    In the tournament so far, West Indies' spinners have taken 13 wickets at an average of 14.38 and an economy rate of 6.09, compared to Pakistan spinners' 10 wickets at 24.40 and an economy-rate of 6.59
     
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    I rate Pakistan's better why? Because im biased. Though statistically not much to those between WI spinners and Paks.
     
  27. Kashif Afridi
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    Pakistani spinners have more potential.

    Shoaib Malik should also be tried if the situation suits the spinners
     
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    Did you guys see the figures of badree and Narine .. Compare that to Ajmal :shrug

    And apparently Windies are the worst against spin bowling. :shrug
     
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    Yaar stop this praising. :fp
     
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    Appreciate quality!
     
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    We shall see this quality against proper batsmen. Tell me who is fit to be called a proper batsman in Pakistan?
     
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    unleash the paanchwa.... :fp
     
  33. Express Pace
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    Ajmal with his usual choke.
     
  34. WaQaReD!
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    lol we all forgot that Pakistan might have the most experienced/best spinners but we also have the worst batsmen and we were outclassed last night and embarassed with both bat and ball. Narine made some of our batsmen look very silly as did Badree
    wonder how Saqlain was feeling in the windies dugout?
     
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    I was a bit bored, so here you go, guys. Stats are only from the Super 10 stage of the World T20 2014.

    Pakistan compared to spinners from WT20 Semi Finalists;

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    Only Pakistan v India v West Indies

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    Note the absence of Hafeez, his stats would make things even worse for Pakistan if they're included.
     

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