Pollard and Bravo choose IPL over national duty

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  1. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    When the IPL was first formed there was a lot of worrying by cricket boards that their players would opt out of national duty so that they could play for the lucrative IPL instead.

    I remember that a lot of assurances were made in those days, that such a situation would never be allowed to arise.

    Yet Keiron Pollard will miss the ODI series against Pakistan so that he can play for the Mumbai Indians and Dwayne Bravo will skip the two match series so that he can play for Chennai Super Kings.

    How do you feel about this? Is it a sign of things to come?
     
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    Well they prefer the lavish parties and mingling around the big shots of India rather than playing for their country also on top of that big fat pay cheque they get too from India which is much more than what they'll get for playing in the ODI series!
     
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    One of the basic purposes of IPL vs ICL was that the players would be available for national duty. However typically Indian attitude. The IPL is a fiasco, meant to dominate the cricketing world. Its India centric, and Indians couldn't care less about the rest of the boards concerns.
     
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    Exactly Zee, the justification for banning ICL players was two-fold.

    One because the ICL wasnt sanctioned by the BCCI and the other because of the concern that players would choose the ICL over their country. The IPl was supposed to be ICC's Knight in shining armour but I did say at the time that the IPl would be worse than the ICL and so it is proving
     
  5. Aditya Khanna
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    Aditya Khanna Youngsta Beauty

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    No player can feature in IPL sans a NOC from their home Board. :)
     
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    khana Youngsta Beauty

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    ipl is domestic indian cricket same as county cricket in england of shield in australia. players are not allowed to participate without there board's approval. its board's mismanagement that they cannot control there players.
     
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    That's just pointless semantics.

    On what basis can a cricket board deny an NOC to one of their players? What criteria do they have? Any player could take the matter to court and have a ruling in their favour against the cricket board for being denied the right to sell their services to anyone they please.

    The only recourse the cricket boards have is to put a clause in the national contract that any contracted player must play for the country ahead of any other contract signed with another league. But what player would sign such a contract?

    Recently we saw what happened to West Indies cricket when all the top players went on strike over the conditions in their contracts. The West Indies B team lost a home series to Bangladesh. If cricket boards tried to enforce a country over IPL clause then we would be seeing the same issue around the world.

    The ground reality is that the existence of the IPL has meant that the boards are powerless. Plus some of the boards want to keep on the IPL's good side because they have a vested interest in the lucrative Champions League.

    However you want to spin it, the money in the IPL is depriving countries of their best players. I personally hope that the ban on Pakistani players playing in the IPL is never lifted!
     
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    Who cares yar, i don't see soccer fans, or hockey fans complaining when those players play in EPL, NHL kind of sports.

    Sooner or later, IPL will be running during the whole year.
     
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    Why not? Why cant they not earn good money from IPL, like all other players like, david beckham, Ronaldo, Tendulkar, Pollard.

    All these players are making more money from national sport leagues, rather then from international tornaments or series.

    Again when soccer or hockey players feature in NHL, EPL ppl dont kare, then why do we get pissed when cricketers play in IPL.

    AND THE REASON IS, IPL IS RUN BY INDIANS :))...................
     
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    It doesn't matter who is running it. ICL was run by the Indians but I quite enjoyed watching that.

    It doesn't matter if it's the Big Bash, the IPL or even the unlikely Pakistan Premier League. I dont like the idea of Pakistani players doing what Pollard, Bravo and other players are doing.
     
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    Holding is getting really worked up by the fact that Jerome Taylor is fit enough to take 3 wickets in the IPL today but isn't fit enough to play for the West Indies. Holding is really incensed.
     
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    The WICB is so messed up. At least we're not the only ones with a cricket board that doesn't care.
     
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    Yeah he was talking about the book that he wrote and he said, that not one copy is going to be sold in India because he had nothing good to say about BCCI and what it is doing to World Cricket..

    He sounded really hurt and angry
     
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    Holding also says that never will the IPL conflict with an Indian series. However BCCI and the ICC doesn't think the same about other country series
     
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    We cant blame the WICB for that, every board has their back against the wall.

    As zeenix says Holding is really hurt. He just said you never, NEVER see an IPL series overlap with a series involving India and that's very true.
     
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    Of course, but that doesn't absolve the WICB of all blame. E.g. the way they handled the Gayle episode was ridiculous. His interview was telling.
     
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    The one good thing about the WICB is that they make the PCB look as organised as the ECB.
     
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    of course when they plan indian domestic cricket they keep in mind indian international schedule too. whats wrong in that. why we think ipl is different from county cricket or shield cricket except money and glamour.
    soccer players sometimes don't play for there countries when they need to play for there clubs, same with NHL. thats what professional sports is nowadays.
     
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    WI is an exceptional case and the fractious relationship between their players and Board long precedes the IPL. Even Bangladesh could prevent its players from participating in IPL pending the series against Australia. You yourself answered how Boards can prevent their contracted players to feature in IPL sans an approval - contractually.

    It's against BCCI's own interest to have players revolt against their own respective boards. IPL can survive a Gayle or a Malinga missing from the action but it cannot survive without tacit support from a majority of the Boards. For this reason alone, the exaggerated fears of players abdicating national duties for IPL is never going to materialize.
     
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    And how do you justify the BCCI arm-twisting the SL board when it called back its players.

    The BCCI could have said, its an internal matter of SL Board and players, rather it asked the SL board to not call the players back
     
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    The IPL can revoke the requirement for an NOC at any time, the cricket boards know that. They're entirely at the mercy of the IPL and we're now in that nightmare situation that the IPL claimed the ICL would create.
     

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