Predict the next Pakistani Politician/Leader in Jail

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  1. godzilla
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    these are very good videos. can someone from the pro-PMLN camp please explain why they are wrong. it seems evidence is coming forth of what people have suspected for years - the sharifs are not business people at all, virtually none of their businesses ever made any money. they bought mediocre businesses, took out huge loans against them, laundered that money away and defaulted on the lions which were then write off by officials at the national banks that were bribed, with the bank losses of the loans then being paid for by the awam. and all of this whilst in office for decades.

    if this can be proven, it is a priority, even though the courts have been busy with far less important things, amongst PTI members who have not been in office during their accused crimes. still, no PTI supporter complains about that.

    put everyone who has stolen from this poor nation, and consequently caused the deaths of poor people be put away for good where they rot in jail.
     
  2. Del
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    Now very conveniently their supporters like @iZaman will close their eyes and look in other direction. Because nobody, nobody can defend this at all.
     
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    Now I'm not saying that everyone in PTI is innocent, however, I believe that Kashmir issue is not solved because of our previous Govts and these thieves. They looted the country and made their empires outside. They didn't try to improve our economy and still we are begging from those which we don't like. As a Nation we should not support any corrupt and we don't need their support.
     
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    She was arrested before her time to appear. She went to visit her father before she had to appear.

    NAB had no right to arrest her before her time to appear. Stop being mindless.
     
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    As far as my stance on corruption goes: catch them all but don't selectively catch those who are against your narrative.

    First catch Musharraf, he isn't not only corrupt but also a proven traitor and then the generals who were supposedly caught for spying for India and all those corrupt army officials who have been involved in corruption for years then catch those who have an alliance with the government like the Pervez Ilahi Brothers (according to ik were the biggest daku in Punjab) and Aleem Khan and Jahangir Tareen and Aleema Baji and the list goes on.

    If your accountability is selective, it isn't accountability, it is political victimization on the name of accountability.


    Also, remove the NAB chief as he has been convicted of the same crimes as the Justice in NS case. Having a compromised head o NAB who has been reported to say that he is under immense pressure from the government to not catch PTI corruption is enough to tell me that this isn't accountability. It is only revenge.
     
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    why would you do them first? on what basis? their current influence of corrupt or criminal? the amount of wealth they have stashed away? the fact that they were the most recent office bearers? the bearing that they have had on the country? based on the amount of evidence collected on them and so chance of a conviction? aleem khan and Jahangir khan have already been through the courts, and why on earth would you start with alexia baji given she has never been an office bearer (and has already been through the courts and penalised to a far greater degree than the layperson would have, and hasnt complained about it)??? thats not being selective??? or is your order based on whoever supports the qadiyyani community? is that the determinant of your lack of selectivity?

    the nab chief has been convicted? where? as has the justice in the NS case? where? where is this conviction? what do you mean immense pressure not to catch PTI corruption - how many PTI cases have there already been, BEFORE all these recent PMLN cases, when their politicians haven't even been in office before? im afraid your post best qualifies for your own words: "this isn't accountability. It is only revenge"
     
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    So delighted to see that piece of shit garage wali aurat behind the bar. Hopefully they wont show any leniency to her this time


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  9. Del
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    There, right there, just listen to yourself. Should I still not call you what I did the other day (which irked you - why not)? These are the same words every Noor'a have been whining about since get go.

    Musharaf is legitimately ill unlike your Nawaz sharif.

    Aleem Khan and Jahangir Tareen and Aleema Baji all have been through the courts, so what's the problem now? And speaking of Aleema, absolutely zilch was proven against her - this is called political victimization and mud slinging from Noora's and their supports like you.

    Both Noora's and folks like you are naturally and morally corrupt.
     
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    Rana Mashood is the next one in line.

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    Lol.. This fascist government is likely going to pull some stunts on their own puppets now to try to show themselves as impartial.

    Post eid we might get a few pti arrests who will likely be able to clear up all their cases like Aleem Khan. JKT and Aleema Baji.. Lol
     
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    https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...6vaCcsz6KUDu62hGoKJkdts#.XVetktIlKPs.facebook




    Pervez Musharraf, Kayani too have Swiss Bank accounts, claims UK-based investigative journalist
    BY WEB DESK , (LAST UPDATED JULY 2, 2016)

    A London-based investigative journalist James D Crickton has claimed former army generals Pervez Musharraf and Ashfaq Parvez Kayani possess multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts.

    While investigating into offshore accounts of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s family, Crickton found that both the former army chiefs have several million dollars stashed away in Swiss bank accounts.

    “I stumbled upon this information accidentally as I was trying to find out how and why Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who hails from a rich business family, has allowed himself to be embroiled in the Panama Leaks controversy unearthed by intrepid international investigative journalists. The charge is that his family members had deposited money in shell companies located in Panama, and used that money to buy properties. It is also said that his daughter Maryam Nawaz owns properties in Peru and Singapore. Sharif critics have not proved thus far that these assets have been acquired with ill-gotten wealth,” he wrote in his blog.

    Crickton further claimed that Musharraf and Kayani are holding separate accounts in a Swiss bank, Julius Baer, with the account numbers 3861337 and 583106 respectively.

    Musharraf’s account, he claims, is maintained by the Star Trust Company. The former president’s account allegedly had several million dollars around the time he was briefly arrested in October 2013. However, presently the balance in the account is $2 million.

    Kayani’s Swiss bank account is maintained by his brother’s UAE-based firm, J&B Construction Company. “The balance in the account is several million US dollars,” Crickton claimed, quoting his sources
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    Yeah now that is more like it. Musharraf isnt really an issue as he never really have any 'corruption' charges against him. Using his authority probably yes, corruption, no.

    Kayani's brother have major irregularities charges against him. There should be a report on how much that guy made.
     
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    @Del @Passionate Pakistani

    Nasim zehra is respected. Why is it that the likes of rana sanaullah have to be hounded like this. These guys were supposedly corrupt to the core.
     
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    Which court are we talking about here?
     
  16. Passionate Pakistani
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    Yaar this is a whole mafia. That judge was peobably bribed. The notification was issued on 26th, other judges stopped working on 26th.. this judge saab came on 28th and still working when he was told that he has been replaced on 26th.

    Now this whole mafia is selling the notion that judge was removed with in hearing.



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  17. Passionate Pakistani
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    People like nasim zehra and hamid mir wont tell you the exact story and lol at raising voice for rana sanaullah

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    Basically what happened is that law of ministry issued notifications of replacement of Judges hearing maryam, nawaz and rana cases on the 26th.
    Other judges left but this guy came today on the 28th when he was already notified on 26th.. cant understand what he was doing on 28th.. and now they have started this drama that he was removed with in hearing on 28th.

    And the media ..well the obvious ones going bonkers.

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    Another one bites the dust.

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    well he was screaming about accountability across the board, so looks like his prayers have been answered. just need that little yapping bill ranee to be locked up too now.
     
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    Rana is a scum, even worse than Bidda ShairAli
     
  22. Disco Lemonade
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    what is happening is that, the likes of rana are being projected as bahadur and saviors of democracy because of a botched up inquiry/court case.

    this is what has happened over the years and this is what is happening. i dont care for these money leeching basmash b*st*rds. But even bigger are those who make these weak cases against them and let them free in the end, making a mockery of justice system.
     
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    Any answers to this? Where is the proof versus Rana?
     
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    what's that supposed to show? an edited highlight from Pakistan's equivalent of Fox News? the courts will answer that question, as they should, what are you trying to get from a message board on a legal ruling that has been published yet?

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    I'm trying to learn more from PTI friends on how they can defend a case when their interior minister claimed they had proofs. It has been over 90 days since his arrest. This sure looks to me like political engineering.
     
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    In a court case would you expect proof to be published in the media prior to a hearing?

    this sure looks like very light weight cheap propaganda.
     
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    so far from the mis handling of authorities, the number of people made heroes for no heroics of their own

    maryam nawaz
    nawaz sharif
    khaqan abbasi
    rana sanaullah
    mohsin dawar

    and special appearance by
    gulalai ismail
    ali wazir

    where is Dr. asim, uzair baloch and ayaan ali btw?
     
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    Unfortunately no judge is willing to hear his case because of obvious reasons... There's no proof except a call from the headquarters.
     
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    proof?

    so basically, as usual, you have absolutely nothing at all other than bs propaganda and political motivated wild speculation.

    are these the same 'obvious reasons' that have had several cases against PML-N figures dropped, bail applications repeatedly given, ECL list removals so PMLN actors have been allowed to run away and the same 'obvious reasons' as to why several PTI law makers have been arrested, tried and/or suspended?
     
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    There is proof.. The judge that spoke on 27th or 26th the last month.. He said he was removed on Whatsapp so he can't make a decision.

    Also. Everything is clear as daylight for anyone who has any sense. Listen to Brigdaier Ijaz Shah interview with Arif Nizami.

    The guy clearly states that if NS had accepted what Chaudhary Nisar said, he would still be the prime Minister.. So basically all the Panama and corruption was bullshit as admitted by an army spokesperson whose also the Interior minister and we knew this all along but now he's admitted it too.
     
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    all of the internationally-proven-and-actioned-at-the-highest-levels-internationally-Panama and corruption is bullshit because of an interview with a brigadier? wow.

    a judge dismissed so therefore there's foul play at hand? what about the judges that granted bail to the sharifs repeatedly? they were ok? the judges going after musharaf? they're ok? Nisar trying to tear apart IL in the SC, that was ok? how does this make any sense whatsoever to anyone with even a shred of integrity?

    you are completely a lost case, you have no idea what the word 'proof' means, you are so consumed by hate and some weird motivations that all you seem to be able to do is try to deceive people with your made up bs. every reference I've followed of yours has been a complete and utter dud. you constantly harp on about the army, and have no proof or references for any of it. you claim that your concern is only the army and nothing else, and yet when all your Indian friends and sympathisers on this board jump up and down about Imran alleging that the army built AQ - lo and behold you are nowhere to be found - an opportunity to jump on the anti-army bandwagon but declined by you because it supports a position taken by your life long enemy IK.

    for 'anyone who has any sense' - your propaganda, hate, irrationality and deceit are the only things that are crystal clear about your posts.

    utter, shameless disgrace.
     
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    Once again, you wrote a paragraph without addressing the issues that I try to point out. Only rhetoric.


    That Brigadier is your interior minister, Do you know that? Also, he's a known army puppet so what he says is basically establishments POV...anyway no use.. we'll see what you have to say when NS gets out.
     
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    when NS gets out? but I thought he was locked away but the magic wizards of the mysterious 'establishment'. how is he then going to get out? so if the wind blows west the establishment wanted it. but then if it blows east, suddenly the establishment changed its mind. how convenient.

    once again, you claim a load of speculative fantasy as fact with no proof whatsoever, and ignore the constant obliteration of your issues by anyone left on these boards with the gargantuan patience necessary to entertain 'them'.

    my first two paragraphed direct directly and specifically with the issues you tried to point out. it couldn't be clearer.

    but this blind denial is par for your course. perhaps the establishment is redacting what is available on your browser.
     
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