Prime Minister Imran Khan and PTI government - Performance watch thread

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    Guess who takes the Real decisions :)
     
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    $50 million startup fund for entrepreneurs announced

    IdeaGist.com, the world’s largest digital incubator has announced a collaboration with Dubai based cryptocurrency fund Oryx Prive Investment to launch an innovative USD 50mn VC fund model with an allocation to IdeaGist Pakistan startups portfolio.

    Innovative startups need access to initial funding for launching their MVPs. However, with the existing problems such as High Entry Barriers, Illiquidity, Lockup periods, and the complicated nature of tech startups, a majority of entrepreneurs fail to get the funding they are aiming for. To meet the funding needs of such startups, a modern age venture capital model is needed.

    “Oryx coin is a bold effort by a highly experienced team of industry specialists with the vision to revolutionize the VC industry through harnessing blockchain technology. We are excited at developing an inclusive and a sustainable scalable model of incubation in collaboration with world’s largest digital incubation platform in Pakistan. Through this initiative we expect to develop alternate ways to help connect innovators and entrepreneurs in Pakistan with global investors. In that respect IdeaGist team plans to launch a series of innovative funds and this first collaboration to launch a decentralized blockchain backed VC in collaboration with Oryx Prive will go a long way in addressing the funding gap and paving the local ecosystem towards alternative models of investment.” Explained Mr. Omer J. Ghani who is leading the IdeaGist effort in Pakistan.

    IdeaGist will offer an exclusive accelerator program to technology startups in Pakistan starting 15th of October, that will prepare them for the rigorous due diligence process by the IdeaGist team.

    IdeaGist has entered into a collaboration to jointly manage the incubation programs of some of the leading universities across all the 5 provinces in Pakistan including names such as UET Lahore, University of Baluchistan, IM Sciences, Karakorum International University, ICCBS, Mehran University Jamshoro, IBA Sukkur and Government College Lahore.

    Chairman IdeaGist Pakistan, Mr. Amer Durrani further added, “With so much existing available infrastructure, one can easily leverage the digital incubation platforms to build the incubation capacity of managers across all universities of Pakistan efficiently and with minimal infrastructure and operational expenditure. As GoP moves towards austerity measures with an aim to provide inclusive and universal access to incubation services to youth, the digitally blended approach remains the only viable option for scaling up the existing efforts and to promoting entrepreneurship.”

    https://dailytimes.com.pk/311106/50-million-startup-fund-for-entrepreneurs-announced/
     
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    incredible show in DC, IK fills out a whole stadium ahead of White House meetings tomorrow. killer speech. so, how did the ISI get everyone out there to travel across the country to fill the stadiums?
     
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    Anybody catch the cricistan watermark'd video that was played?
     
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    Credit to him, only he could pull off such a gathering from Pakistan.
     
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    incredibly impressive. not so selected I suppose out there.

    that all said, he did make some claims I would be surprised if he willbbe able to accomplish:

    he said he was going to remove the VIP prison conditions of the political leaders in prison, namely Nawaz and zardari; and although he says no NRO, he says if they return the money, they can leave - which sounds like an NRO to me.

    He also said that he would fix the cricket team, which was a surprise, and I am skeptical, but lets see.

    he is offering to broker peace between Iran and Saudi which is very interesting, and of course Afghanistan. the USA will want his help in Afghanistan, I would imagine trump wants the hell out of there as soon as possible. Saudi/Iran will never happen, just because the Israelis suffer the most with peace in the region, and the Saudi royal family benefit too from a climate of conflict and fear. The Iranian leadership, or, sub leadership is probably too corrupt to risk stability bringing a light of accountability on them.

    its the same policy as our corrupt elements try to hide behind - stability is the last thing that thieves want - it removes all distraction.
     
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    When?
     
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    Right before IK came on, they played a montage. The DJ played the wrong video at first and the clip was cricistan watermark'd video.
     
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    look at the comparison of IK and nawaz or zardari. its night and day. the support he got, the respect he has Internationally amongst the strongest powers in the world - none of this is the 'establishment'. it's a genuine movement.
     
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    You sure? I watched the jalsa afterwards on youtube..didn’t see such vid played?
     
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    When has anybody disagreed on his pulling powers. Obviously he is a celebrity but to claim that he gave off any vibe of a Prime Minister is ridiculous, to say the least.

    The guy still wants to keep repeating the Dharna rhetoric of punishing xyz. He even said that Khaqan Abbasi was asking us to imprison him and so we did (lol at anyone who still believes NAB is an unbiased accountability institute) and similarly he claimed that he will remove Ac from Nawaz Sharifs prison? Wth.. Why couldn't he do that back in Pakistan? What does NS AC have to do with Pakistans development. Where's a speech on his vision on how he is trying to build Pakistan.

    He should've remained on the Dharna container... And besides this, Trump said Pakistan wasn't doing anything for us that is why he had issues.. Now that IK is here, he's ready to bend his back for every jaaiz and najaiz proposal of ours.
     
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    Listen to his spech again, maybe after few times you'll realize when and where he said, how Pakistan is becoming a "Naya Pakistan", but for that you need to remove you biased and hatred.

    As for Abbasi, he was whining for so long that if I have done anything wrong than arrest me, once NAB had enough evidences against him than he as arrest in LNG case, nobody should get butthurt about it. More to the point, he said he will put Nawaz, Zardari and their allies behind bars and they're now for very valid reasons, whats wrong about it?

    Last but not the lease, Trump also did lots of mud slinging on previous Gov of us as well. He said Pakistan wasnt doing what we wanted them to do before your Gov (addressing to Khan). However, now we're working very close to them & we'll have great relationships with Pakistan, and we should its a great country. Now where the hell "he's ready to bend his back for every jaaiz and najaiz proposal of ours" come from?

    The way he met and dealt with Khan was very pleasant. Nawaz and Zardari were never given such respect. But I know its very hard to sallow for many.
     
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    PTI and Imran Khan are the judge, jury and the executionor and we are supposed to believe that everything is being done fairly. The Chief Of NAB has been proven to have been compromised (like the NS judge) and yet the videos used against him are buried in sand while the NS judge is removed with FIR vs the people who took the videos. Even the blind can see what is going. Unfortunately, the love for IK has put a blindfold on expats and burger bachas.

    Latest is a video circulating of Shaykh Rasheed being thrashed out of a public place where people took it on themselves to throw him out of the place. Just wait and watch to see the real Pakistani awam throw this military backed puppet out of the dream he is living in.
     
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    the lure of corrupt money is strong enough to blind at any costs it seems.
     
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    Don't put your words in others mouth. Its a very typical argument people bring in discussion that PTI and Khan are unbiased and we supposed to believe on them. You are from Lahore, Pakistan and you're still defending crooks who looted the country for many, many years. Its a shame and you and others like you support those who embezzled tens of millions of pounds of public money and laundering it in Britain. Its a shame that you and others like you still support those who are responsible of Pakistan's current financial deficit, which has grown significantly since 2010. Why, can you answer this, I know you can't.

    No video can make go away corruption Nawaz and his allies have done. And if that judge was compromised then why he give verdict in this favor in one case? I know you will have no answer of this.

    Like as I said, I have seen your rhetoric here many times, so I am not surprised even a bit why are you so butthurt about the accountability process. Every person in Capital one arena in DC wanted the accountability process to further speedup and on hand we have Pakistani's who are trying to resist it, bravo.

    And a massive LOL at "real Pakistani awam", same awam who voted PTI and went to Capital one in huge numbers.
     
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    Capital one arena.. Lol.. They don't matter at all bro..

    I'm just asking you to wait and see. Maryams jalsas have been completely blacked out from the mainstream media. Remember IK used to say he'll provide a container and lunch to the protesters?

    An FIR has also been registered vs her.. Lol..


    And trust me, get out of the capital arena. It doesn't matter one single bit what the expats think.
     
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    Keep crying bro, Maryam, Nawaz and PML-N are finished, nobody give two hoots about them.

    Like as I said, you have no answers of the question I asked.

    And its only you for how Capital one show doesnt matter, for rest of the world it does, so keep living denial.
     
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    Where do you live bro? There's not many pti supporters left in Pakistan now..
     
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    Oh yeah, really, we will see.

    Like as I said before, you have no answer of my questions, therefore, nothing is left in your arguments.
     
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    Anybody who thinks PMLn is finished has zero sense of political dynamics. People thought PPP was finished after BB nd look where they are now.

    Go read Pakistans political history and understand how the establishment keeps playing with politicians to make their own profit. They never let a politician get bigger than what they can handle. Bhutto was killed due to the fact that he got out of control. NS AND BB were both toppled due to them becoming independent but the establishment never let them die. I wouldn't be surprised if NS was killed during the PTI era.
     
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    its a shameless rhetoric that ignores facts, and tries to hide behind deception. IK is accused of continuing dharma politics. well when he spoke in that way - brilliantly as it happens - it wasnt to the US government, it was to the Pakistani people. and judging the massive turnout and the unprecedented reaction, its exactly what they wanted to hear. so it was a boss move, for that alone, but also because it sounded out to the US government that he is a popular leader even amongst ex-pats.

    when it came to international politics and representation of pakistan, no one, particularly of the thieving previous governments, have even come close to the poise and success that he delivered.

    so as usual, for people trying to defend their thieving and looting, an attempt at deception and decontextualisation is the only desperate defence. thankfully the people can see through it, as witnessed by the turnout, and of course the incredibly positive outcome of the trip.

    with regards to the calibri queen out on bail not really a leader because she's disqualified, but leader because we obviously dont like to follow the law of the land - if she had followed the law, there wouldnt have been any issues. she didnt, theres a reference. simple, uncomplicated and uncontroversial. in terms of media blackouts, its the same thing. if a media house wants to run lies or material that is in contempt of court, because under the previous governments they were bribed by the ruling parties, they will be stopped in accordance to the laws of the broadcasting regulators. if they dont like that, they can appeal. simple and uncontroversial.

    with regards to the judges - let the courts take their course. if you are going to say judgments are null and void - prove it under law, but then so are likely to be the acquittals and escapes from the three other high profile cases - so lets have them sit through all of them again, if the judiciary are compromised. and selectively cancel their judgements. given nawaz was put in prison because of an inability to demonstrate a money trail, im assuming everyone wanting a retrial are aware of how this money trail has magically appeared? it hasn't, the judgement will still hold because its based on principles of law and fact, no matter who the judge is, its black and white and uncontroversial.

    and then of course, the small matter of blackmailing a judge seems to be a problem for thieves thieves and dacoits - why are you going after blackmailers rather than cancelling the judgements of a corrupt judge? well because the corrupt judge, according to law, does not necessarily disqualify decisions that incidentally were made by a bench. and secondly, since it is difficult for criminals to understand, blackmailing is against the law. trying to influence a court decision, is illegal. and anyone doing it can and should be put away for ten years. at least if this does happen, the calibri queen can make home cooked food for her filthy father in prison.

    just look at these other morons, zardari and nawaz. its a total and utter embarrassment, as are their crooked supporters. its black and white, but ill gotten money stolen from the poor, starving and dying does seem to blind.

     
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    Its much better if PML-N will be lead by Chaudhry Nisar. The only guy from PML-N who is not corrupt and is perhaps the only clean guy.

    And its utter hogwash that Benazir was killed by establishment - utter bakwas. It was Zardari and the one who still can't see it has not even iota of sense. Just think for a sec, who is ultimate beneficiary.
     
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    no. thy were removed because they were corrupt, were syphoning of money and using their executive powers to make self motivated appointments institutionally, destroying the entire productivity of the country, causing massive poverty, hardship, squalor and death amongst the poor, whilst building empires for themselves in countries for whom they then worked against the national interest to protect their interests.

    they were toppled because they were filth, and stupid enough to have been caught red handed even then.
     
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    Bro dont give such a heavy dose of facts, people wouldnt be able to digest it and wouldnt be able to go through tonight.
     
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    People are having blue tears in their eyes due to accountability process, without even realizing the fact that PTI or Khan has not opened these corruption cases. All these cases, for which so called "leaders" are behind bar were opened by previous Gov's.
     
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    Honestly, I don't think any of you live in Pakistan so none of you are experiencing the PTI government. You think there's any less corruption now? Ever been to a government office this year? Ever traveled through train? Ever paid a bill? Ever purchased groceries? The list goes on. Anyone who has had to deal with the government knows how incapable they are...

    Ppl will throw all the garbage theories of yours if all you can talk about is Dharna politics and not live upto the standards for which you staged a Dharna for 126 days (lol you think attacking the Parliament was through the 'due legal process') and blamed the other politicians for not being capable enough..
     
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    The ground reality is that PTI has lost the trust of Civilians and IK is no longer the awaited messiah.

    All we need is some ballsy leaders that can challenge the establishment and people will get behind them (there's a fair chance of a martial law so there's a risk as well)
     
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    Only a fool will believe that corruption in Pakistan, which is deeply rooted will be uprooted in mare 10 months - only a fool. When your system, departments & bureaucracy have goons sitting in every corner, when you whole system is rotten to core then it will take years to revive the system. After all bureaucracy and other things didnt deteriorate in last 4/5/6 years, its the fruits of hardwork of PMN-N in Punjab and PPP in Sindh and MQM in Karachi.

    Nora's have nothing to say in their defense but keep on repeating rhetoric of "Dharna politics". If this Dharna politics will throw crooks like Nawaz, Zardari, Faryal Tanlpur, Saad Rafiq, Hanif Abbasi & Khaqan Abbasi then every Pakistani will take it everyday, twice on Sunday.
     
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    Every country is driven by its own establishment, you are either naive or stupid to the greatest degree if you cant realize it. What do you think how matters of counties like US, Russia, UK and China are run? By their Gov's? No, absolutely not, its their none state actors, who're sitting behind. US wants to leave Afghanistan at every cost (and it needs Pakistan's help), what do you think who's decision it is? Trumps? lol. Why UK doesnt handover Altaf to Pakistan? Its it UK's Gov which is hold him or MI6? Go figure.

    In Pakistan its just very obvious so that people can see it and that's why blame them for everything, even if a wild dog dies on the corner of a street, old, typical & boring rhetoric.
     
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    While crooks like Zahoor brothers, Firdous Aashiq, Shaykh Rasheed, Aleem Khan, The guy who inserted a rod into his driver's ****, Fake pir Qureshi, Peshawar BRT mastermind, Jahangir Tareen (proven culprit), Fawad (lota), Wasim Akram plus et al are all part of the government.

    I can bet my life that if any of the name you mentioned had decided to join PTI, they would be part of the government.
     
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    Oh yeah, so why then Tareen is not part of cabinet? Why Aleem Khan is facing his cases? Like as I said, keep crying, infact cry me a river.
     
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    And yet heading a cabinet meeting? Lool. Aleem Khan was facing a case but has been given a clean chit as was expected. (anybody who lives in Lahore knows how big of a thug he is)
    Anyway, it's not your fault. You're a youthiya.


    As far as your establishment apologist post is concerned. There's always tension but no government lies down on their back and gives over every important duty to the establishment. (interior minister.. Proven army thug.. Hammad Azhar appointed one night and removed the next morning.. And so many other examples for those who have eyes to see)

    NS fault is that he had grown into a civilian power and was dealing with army on an equal level. Ik is happy with his meetings with trump and arena Dharna while the COAS makes all the decisions. He doesn't care about anything other than 'mayn Nawaz ko ni choronga. Uska Ac nikal doonga..'
     
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    For those that are taking the money I can see why they do what they do but I would never understand the mindset of their followers who gain nothing yet keep propping up the corruption. What are they hoping will be achieved ?.
     
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    If corruption based accountability is carried out. It needs to be equal and fair.

    The truth would hurt a lot of people if real corrupt were found out. What is happening right now is basically corruption guillotine where in only those who do not agree with you are sent (doesn't matter if there's a case or not, they'll make it up if they have to)
     
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    So if nothing is proven then why Aleem khan should be thrown behind bars? Now go on and say that its becs PTI is in power now, just watch how real people of Pakistan who support corruption of Nawaz will put him behind bar.

    So the obligation you have against Tareen, why the same is not true for Maryam? Why has been acting like PM when Nawaz was PM? When Shahbaz is PML-N president then why she is calling all the shots? Again, you will have no answer of these question too, so close your eyes and assume you didnt see these, just like what did you in my previous posts.

    NS is a traitor so as his daughter, Shahbaz and his family at least are not traitors. And what power NS has grown? Where was this power of civilans when he was coming back to the country to surrender. Why ocean of people didnt come to save him? Its all utter none sense and typical Noora's rhetoric that NS has civilian on his side.
     
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    In what simpleton’s world is everyday beurocratic corruption (allowed to flourish by the previous governments) in any way at all comparable to billions of dollars worth of corruption - theft from the national exchequer, appointments on the basis of self preservation, indebtedness to the point of bankruptcy to create a this facade of success for buffoons, the establishment of personal empires in other Sovreign states for them to use as leverage for their interests? This is embarrassingly poor.

    The state of the social infrastructure is not because of the past twelve months, it’s because Surrey mansions were being built when pakistani infrastructure should have been, inflation is not because of the past twelve months, nor are interest rates, the currency depreciation or taxes - that’s because previous governments took us to the brink of bankruptcy by gargantuan mismanagement, stealing, nepotism, treason and incompetence rather than investing in the people of the country.

    Oh but it’s difficult to buy groceries. Pathetic.
     

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