Prime Minister Imran Khan and PTI government - Performance watch thread

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    https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...lution-on-kashmir-in-unhrc-1601036-2019-09-19

    Pakistan has missed the deadline to file a resolution on Kashmir at the ongoing United Nations Human Rights Commission. The last day to file a request for a resolution during the 42nd UNHRC session was on September 19. The session which started on September 9 concludes on September 27.

    Pakistan did not file the petition as it failed to garner the minimum support of 16 nations for admission of the request. Further adoption of the resolution would have required a minimum of 24 votes.

    Pakistan's Foreign Affairs Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi had promised his nation a resolution on Kashmir before leaving for Geneva to attend the session.

    Before leaving for Geneva, the Pakistani minister had claimed that he will use the UNHRC sessions to raise "Indian state-monitored genocide in Jammu and Kashmir".

    Shah Mahmood Qureshi had said that he will not only raise the Kashmir issue but will also move a Kashmir "resolution", seeking support for Pakistan's case. However, he failed to deliver.
     
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    Like I have earlier said, our visit to the US had some secret under the table deals in it and it included Kashmir.

    I don't expect a war and if we did have it then it would just be a mutual benefit war for both sides like the post palwama act.
     
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    I still remember the hue n cry PTI made when the Kasur incident occurred first.
    Why has PTI not been able to control any issues in Punjab yet? Has pti ever done anything more than giving notices and making fake promises of improving the police structure?

    Any news on the Sialkot incident when parents were killed on the motorway infront of their children?
     
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    KARACHI: Indus Motor Company (IMC), the maker of Toyota vehicles, has decided to shut down all production for the remaining days of September, bringing the total number of “non-production days” (NPDs) to 15 in the month due to continuing fall in demand.

    An IMC official, who asked not be named, said the company had already observed eight NPDs in July and 11-12 NPD in August.

    He said the federal excise duty (FED) of 2.5-7.5 per cent on various engine capacity cars, sky rocketing prices on account of rupee-dollar parity coupled with additional customs duty on imported parts and raw material and high interest rates had priced most of their vehicles out of the market. For September, “half of the current month is off,” the official said.

    Sources said the IMC plant and countrywide dealership network has piled up unsold inventory of over 3,000 vehicles. The plant is running at 50pc capacity in September.

    Meanwhile, a Toyota vendor confirmed to Dawn that IMC’s production would remain shut from Sept 20-30.

    Toyota Corolla production and sales dropped to 5,308 units and 3,708 units respectively in July-August from 8,804 and 8,770 units in same period last fiscal year, representing a fall of 40 and 57pc respectively.

    Toyota Hilux production and sales plunged to 793units and 716 units from 1,383 and units 1,292 units, a drop of 42pc and 44pc respectively. Further, production and sales of Toyota Fortuner came down to 232 units and 162 units from 484 units and 424 units, a drop of 52pc and 62pc respectively
     
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    Top auditor finds over Rs15tr irregularities by ministries
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    ISLAMABAD: The Auditor General of Pakistan (AGP) has pointed out irregularities of more than Rs15.67 trillion worth of public money by the federal ministries and divisions during the audit year 2018-19.

    In its report laid before parliament as required under Article 171 of the Constitution, the AGP highlighted a series of violation of rules and regulations, weaknesses of internal control, misappropriation or overpayment of public funds and negligence. The funds audited were of the fiscal year 2017-18 which is described as audit year 2018-19.

    The audit objections regarding the accounts of the federal government for the audit year 2018 are far greater (87 per cent) than the Rs5.8tr a year before, showing that financial control over public money has deteriorated instead of having been improved or the AGP office was too consumed in procedural niceties under the decade-old rules and regulations.

    This is evident from the fact, for example, that the government raised $2 billion (Rs280bn) international bonds at 8.25pc and 7.25pc interest with the approval of the prime minister instead of the federal cabinet as required under the rules. While the audit objected to the higher interest rate, the entire amount of Rs280bn was described as irregular and unauthorised without raising questions if the funds were actually justified.

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    Highlights a series of violation of rules and regulations, weaknesses of internal control, misappropriation of public funds

    As a consequence, majority of such big ticket items are ultimately regularised by the Public Accounts Committee because these seldom involve corruption or embezzlement. This is also evident from the fact that in the huge sum of Rs15.67tr that attracted audit objections, the actual reported cases of fraud, embezzlement, theft and misuse of public resources involved a paltry amount of Rs862 million. But then there were also serious cases of bad fiscal management highlighted by the AGP.

    The AGP in its report, also submitted to the president of Pakistan, put on record that its findings were based on scrutiny of public funds of 40 out of 50 federal entities and did not cover amounts below Rs1m spent or received by these entities. It said that an amount of Rs4.9bn was recovered during the year under review at the instance of the auditor and deposited in the federal consolidated fund.

    The AGP highlighted a total of 39 cases of weak internal control amounting to Rs14.56tr involving several ministries and divisions and related entities abroad. Again, some of them were also included in 51 cases pertaining to weak financial management involving a total amount of Rs14.735tr. Also, 237 cases of Rs293bn were pointed out involving irregular expenditures or payments in violation of rules.

    There were 56 cases of recovery amounting to Rs186bn, while in four cases record relating to Rs1.06bn was not produced on the auditor’s demand.

    Interestingly, the AGP also questioned misrepresentation of more than Rs9.96tr worth of supplementary grants by the Ministry of Finance and the Accountant General of Pakistan Revenue (AGPR) which are required to ensure sound financial management of the federal government. The audit described it as a “high risk” area because it violated Articles 80-84 of the constitution because the finance ministry did not print these supplementary grants in budget accounts which accounted for 94.32pc of the total supplementary grants.

    It said the total supplementary grants as per manuscript of appropriation accounts for the fiscal year 2017-18 stood at Rs10.561tr, but only Rs599bn of these grants had been printed in schedule of authorised expenditure, leaving an unauthorised expenditure of Rs9.962tr.

    The AGP said the finance ministry was required to place all supplementary grants before the National Assembly for approval, but it was not done and such large amounts remained unreported. The finance ministry’s response that supplementary grants received from various ministries and divisions beyond a cut-off date could not be made part of the book presented to parliament was found untenable.

    Moreover, the AGP noted that the ministries and divisions had incurred an expenditure of Rs3.643tr in excess of final grants available to them and in fact heads and principal accounting officers of the ministries were not authorised to incur excess expenditure without any supplementary grants or within original budget allocation. This also included about Rs3.48tr of excess payment of domestic debt.

    The AGP also expressed concern over non-surrendering of savings worth Rs411bn by various ministries and divisions, resulting in lapse of funds. This was violation of financial rules that require that all anticipated savings should be surrendered to the kitty immediately they are foreseen but not later than May 15 each year. This could have pre-empted utilisation of funds by some other deserving areas.

    The AGP also highlighted about Rs55bn less payment to the provinces under their National Finance Commission shares through over-deduction of collection charges and unauthorised overpayment of Rs35bn to Balochistan.

    Published in Dawn, September 20th, 2019

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1506251?f...uiZjUJ37_YMbtli0_vJGGVUMM4tpobAlgwCVjYwVwKwHg


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    Read this again guys ans check the dates in it.

    This should seal the deal for this hypocrite.. seen this shared by many pmln leaders and embarrassed by everyone when the dates in this werw shown to them (2017-2018)

    Guy didnt even bother to read it himself and just posted it. Now this is what you called difference between being hypocrite with an agenda and genuine honest criticsm

    @Del

    And this is the reason why i dont bother arguing with him. Tell me he is a religious guy with knowledge about deen.. but whats the use of that ?

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    Also, hypocrite will post anything and everything but conveinetly ignore when telegraph call Imran Khan's Ehsas programme as an innovation and world can learn from it

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...welfare-state-world-can-learn-innovation/amp/

    But forget it.. as they say there is no point arguing with fools and hypocrites. One cant understand, other doesnt want to understand.

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    This is applicable to Abbasi era, not?
     
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    Re sexual harassment.
    And that's how corruption starts people brush things aside. If it happens address it don't hide from it.
     
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    Couldnt agree more bro. Its just that he has been exposed one again and his hypocrite & agenda can be seen by all. I do the same, because there is no point to waste time on a person who offers no rational. I remember @godzilla used to waste his time on him too, but good that he leaned and doesnt do it anymore.

    More to the point, this is what happens when you talk too soon without doing your due diligence. At least read the article once before posting ...
     
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    I just posted a news and it applies not only to PMLn era but also the PTI era. Where have I said that PMLn is clean?


    Anyway, it's so convenient to point fingers to PMLn but not discuss genuine problems like the CPEC, brt and sexual harassment.
     
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    I'd pay good money to see this become pak PM

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/528632-fawad-expresses-desire-to-become-deputy-pm

    KARACHI: Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry has expressed desire to become Deputy Prime Minister (DPM). He said this while addressing a summit held here in a local hotel on Wednesday.

    He held we are setting up the largest bio technology centre of South Asia. Green energy is future. The transmission of electricity will be made through green energy rather than poles and cables.

    He went on to say we kept on building madaris rather than the best universities of the world and serving them. We missed the chances of MIT and Havard. We got a lot from US during Ziaul Haq regime in decade of 1970. We cannot make up for loss by selling tomatoes and potatoes in future.

    He said the only difference between Pakistan, China, Korea, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia is technology. He remarked in these countries the Minister for Science and Technology is known as Deputy Prime Minister. May our Prime Minister (PM) pay his attention to this side but notice has not been taken so far.

    When Fawad Chaudhry expressed this desire smilingly, the entire hall echoed with laughter and clapping.

    Talking to media men he said Kachra government is in place in Sindh. Provincial government has to do nothing and it is necessary to get rid of it. The people of Sindh have to decide either they want to live with Kachra government or want to change it.
     
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    Will PMIK demand extradition?

    Gulalai Ismail, Feminist Hunted by Pakistan’s Authorities, Escapes to U.S.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/world/asia/gulalai-ismail-pakistan-activist.html

    By Jeffrey Gettleman

    • Published Sept. 19, 2019Updated Sept. 20, 2019, 10:12 a.m. ET
    NEW DELHI — Her face was everywhere — on the news, at police stations and at the airports where the Pakistani government had put her on a list of the nation’s most wanted.

    She has been accused of treason, though human rights defenders said that the allegations were bogus and that she was being targeted for highlighting abuses committed by Pakistan’s military. Security services were searching for her in every corner of the country, raiding her friends’ houses and closing in on her family.

    But somehow Gulalai Ismail, a 32-year-old Pakistani women’s rights activist on the run, managed to slip through the dragnet last month and escape to America. She is now staying with her sister in Brooklyn and has applied for political asylum in the United States.

    She is still worried about her parents back home and the underground network that secretly protected her as she moved from house to house, city to city, through countless police checkpoints, always wearing a veil over her face, her eyes barely visible.

    She did not reveal how she got out, except to say, “I didn’t fly out of any airport.”

    “I can’t tell you any more,” she said in an interview this week. “My exit story will put many lives at risk.”

    Her ordeal sheds light on the state of human rights in Pakistan, a troubled nation with a history of brutal repression. Ms. Ismail has campaigned aggressively for women’s rights, bringing attention to rapes, disappearances and other abuses that she and many others say have been committed by Pakistan’s security forces against their own people.

    The military is all-powerful in Pakistan and the country is approaching an inflection point. Pakistani officials do not like talking about Ms. Ismail — none would comment publicly for this article.

    [How Ms. Ismail became Pakistan’s enemy of the state, accused of inciting rebellion.]

    Her account of being chased out of the country does not help the government’s efforts to win diplomatic support at a time when the economy is tanking and Pakistan is begging the world to censure India for its recent moves on Kashmir, a disputed territory claimed by both Pakistan and India.

    “I will do everything I can to support Gulalai’s asylum request,” said Senator Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York. “It is clear that her life would be in danger if she were to return to Pakistan.”

    Pakistani security officials said they had suspected for some time that Ms. Ismail had slipped through their fingers.

    “Our guys have been after her, by all means, but she is not traceable,” said a Pakistani intelligence agent who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing intelligence protocols. “She has gone to a place beyond our reach.”

    How she did that — whether it was crossing overland into Iran or Afghanistan and then onward to Europe or America, or perhaps getting smuggled out by sea — remains a tantalizing mystery. The Pakistani government had barred her from leaving the country and tried to seal all the exits.

    Ever since she was 16, Ms. Ismail has been speaking out about human rights abuses, focusing on the plight of Pakistani women and girls who suffer all kinds of horrors including forced marriages and honor killings.

    In January, she aired accusations, on Facebook and Twitter, that government soldiers had raped or sexually abused many Pakistani women. She has also joined protests led by an ethnic Pashtun movement that Pakistan’s military has tried to crush. Pakistani officials have accused Ms. Ismail of sedition, inciting treason and defaming state institutions.

    In late May, she became a fugitive.

    It started with a phone call from a friend to her house in Islamabad, Pakistan’s capital, where she lived with her elderly parents.

    “It’s all over the media, a raid team is coming, you have to leave — now!” the friend said.

    Ms. Ismail scrambled out the door with no spare clothes or even a phone. “They can trace you, even when it’s off,” she said.

    Was she scared?

    “It was one of those moments you don’t have time to feel,” she said. “You don’t have time to be frightened, you don’t have time to be brave, you just have to act.”

    She spent the next three months moving from place to place, across many different Pakistani cities, never using a phone or touching a computer, she said. She turned to a small, trusted group of friends and their contacts, staying indoors, covering her face for the few moments when she did step outside, incredibly careful each time she changed locations.

    Pakistan is a heavily watched place. Roadside security checkpoints are everywhere. Ms. Ismail said she crossed hundreds of them.

    She recalled one incident when she showed up at the house of a friend of her father’s and when the friend answered the door and saw her standing there, he froze.

    “He was so scared that he would be arrested for supporting a terrorist and his children would be arrested,” she said.

    The next day the friend called a taxi and Ms. Ismail left.

    “Hiding is not pleasant,” she said.

    She already had a visa to the United States, where she has visited regularly, meeting prominent women including Michelle Obama. After she arrived in New York in August, she immediately holed up in her family’s house in Brooklyn, where two brothers and two sisters live.

    Still, she did not want to go outside. She felt depressed and anxious. She said she didn’t feel any huge gush of relief.

    She was worried about her parents, who face charges of financing terrorism and remain under heavy surveillance in Islamabad. She was also worried that a Pakistani agent or someone on the government’s side might see her on a New York street and take a picture of her — or worse.

    In recent days, she said, she has been feeling much better. She still spends most of her time inside the family home, cooking mutton achaari and other Pakistani dishes.

    She is waiting on her asylum application. Lawyers said there was little chance that the United States would send her back to Pakistan.

    “In Gulalai’s case, I understand that she is charged with anti-state activities, which obviously carry a death penalty,” said Masroor Shah, a lawyer in Islamabad who has dealt with many human rights cases. “There is no likelihood based on past policies and local laws that U.S. authorities would even consider an extradition request.”

    Voices for Peace and Democracy, to protect women in conflict zones. She is also thinking of law school.

    But it makes her sad, a constant shadow on her life ahead, that she might never see her parents again — or Pakistan.

    “When I left, I knew this was a one-way trip,” she said. “And as I was leaving, I bent down and touched the soil, and told myself, ‘This is where I belong, this is my country.”’

    Salman Masood and Ihsanullah Tipu Mehsud contributed reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan.
     
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    So touching village idiot no 1 cares about women's rights.... Maybe he can focus on India and its rape culture first!

    Ohh sugar a whataboutisms from me... Low hanging fruit.
     
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    Its really really getting depressing now, I fear for the worse.
     
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    Don't fall for it.
     
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    When people like Hasan Nisar and Khalil Ahmad Nanital Wala, two of the most neutral and level-headed columnists I have ever read who never said anything bad about PTI before start becoming pessimistic and concerned, then I guess the writing is on the wall.

    Khan will be ruined by the people surrounding him, these same people will abandon him in their hoards come next election to join the new gravy train, mark my words.
     
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    PTI still claims they aren't trying for a deal.
     
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    Niazi is a self-righteous, egoistic and an incompetent idiot. He doesn't have any idea of running the Govt. The establishment bet on him taking him to be a horse, he turned out to be a mule. Niazi is a blind leading blinds and we can just but hope that by the time his tenure ends in 5 years, there is something left for the other govt to salvage from the ruins of Pakistan.
     
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    he is not doing any worse than the previous govts. People make bad moves, imran is doing those aswell. but he has taken some really good moves on correcting the type of economy, taxes and corruption etc.

    we need consistency right now in the moves he has taken. if we dont then we are in for a blunder.

    people like hasan nisar as you say are not biased, so their criticism is valid and required. But their criticism has never changed the mind of establishment. i wish it would have but no, our establishment is honestly, quite dumb.

    Khan is not the only one who will be ruined by the people surrounding him. That's establishment for you brother. And if he didnt know that he will face such people around him then he was naive. I dont think he is naive.

    if you want to know what establishment is upto, check who the likes of shahid masood, kashif abbasi is aligning with.

    qamar javed bajwa is backing imran, unless there is a coup within the military, imran is not going anywhere. the coup within the army has happened before, remember musharraf, zia? if imran goes, bajwa will follow.
     
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    Excellent summary of the joke that is IK.
    I'm surprised people are still expecting ik re recover from his disastrous performance.

    BTW. The Kashmir thread is closed but just FYI, we were bluffed by PTI and SMQ on Kashmir as we haven't filed a petition in the human rights council for Kashmir as promised.


    Once again, we are losing horribly on our foreign front.
     
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    TBH there is no solution for Kashmir. India wouldn't let go of its part and neither would Pakistan. Kashmiris lost their chance for independence/merger with Pakistan in 48 and 65 when they refused to side with the Pakistanis who were fighting a war with the Dogras and the Indians. They thought they were better off with the Indians. How is that going for them....
     
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    That is a separate issue. If you talk about history then imo, the 1947 partition was a disaster...especially the line of partition was ridiculous where 6 million people had to die and a lot of others had to suffer.


    However, what matters is the lying. If IK has done a deal in the US on giving up IOK, then he should come up and admit it instead of lying and making social media trends.
     
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    You are giving way too much importance to Niazi. Do you really think he has the authority and competence to be part of such important decision making.

    What does a clown do. He/She entertains. Nobody discusses serious matters with a clown. Niazi is a clown brought by the establishment to entertain people. Foreign policies were never the domain of civilian govts, that was always the bone of contention between Civilians and Establishment. Difference is the other civilian govt tried to get Foreign policy under their control. This coke junkie is neither capable nor aware of Foreign policy
     
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    Could you give me a brief run down of IOK. From a few simplified youtube vids I gather that originally iok decided to go with india, well some monarch decided to join india.. Pak took Azad Kashmir and India sent in reinforcements to maintain what they have now. Didn't subsequent iok leaders shown allegiance to India.... Till their stupidity just about alienated the entire region?
     
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    Putting it simply, Dogras ruled Kashmir, Poms were leaving they decided to allow all the princely states to choose between Pak and Hind. Majority in Kashmir were muslims, Ladakh were Buddhists, Jammu were Hindus. Dogra was taking time in deciding to accede to any country, Tribals from Pakistan invaded Kashmir and annexed Gilgit Baltistan and parts of Kashmir. Rest went to the Indians. In the security council India and Pakistan both pledged a plebiscite for Kashmiris. Never happened.

    Around 25-30% of Pakistan water flows from Indian Kashmir, Ayub Khan decided it was a good idea to give control of 3 rivers to India and allow limited use of the rest of the two. In 1965 Operation Gibraltor we landed commandos into IOK thinking that the Kashmiris will rise against India. Never happened Kashmiris pinpointed the location of our commandos and they were captured by Indian forces. In response India attacked Pakistan which ended in a stalemate.
     
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    So basically India used the word of an autocrat/ dictator to take kashmir while the Kashmiris have shown no real desire to join pak by virtue of their actions?

    I honestly don't know why Pakistan is flogging this dead horse. Any pro pak sentiment shown by those in occupied kashmir are more likely a protest than any real allegiance to pak. Time to just accept realities and accept the loc as a permanent border. Lord knows it may be better for Kashmiris given how insecure India is.
    The way I see kashmir is they're like a battered wife... Even when you offer them a choice they never quite see it through. You can't save the world
     
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    Re Kashmir; it is looking likelier and likelier that the US is only getting involved in this mess because it wants to create a new Israel in the east.

    They're probably going to make Kashmir a state which is equally ruled by the two countries and directly headed by the UN.. Basically a state which could be used vs China and controlling the Eastern world now that US is leaving Afghanistan.
     
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    @Passionate Pakistani listen to the following.

    What Kashmir narrative has been echoed here in this thread, is the same what PML-N has been saying along with Diesel. No surprise at all.

     
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    Till yesterday there was no such plans. Infact US said they will hit Taliban more harder now, so, can you provide any source of "US is leaving Afghanistan" or its your wishful thinking?
     
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    LOL. OK don't believe it.

    Fortunately though, Trump isn't as dumb as you.
     
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    So as usual you have no source to back you claim and in the end couldn't resist using insulting remarks. Carry on, its my fault that I expected something sensible from you.
     
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    Look, why are you arguing with me? I'm an Ahmadi according to you. You think that was any less of an insult to me? You should carry on thinking that you're doing Jihad arguing with me.

    Had anyone else asked me the same question, I would've bothered replying but someone who has so basic comprehension issues, I need not to reply lest I get accused of being an Ahmadi.
     
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    I repeat, its my fault that I expected something sensible from you.
     
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    ayub decided to give control? he had no ownership! All the river heads were n India control1 It was Nehru's idiocy to sign the IWT and give away three rivers for peanuts. Of course it was Nehru's to implement 370. That guy is a utter loser.
     
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    No the initial plan was to bring the taliban to camp David. The initial plan was to withdraw.
    And as for trump he is without doubt the biggest imbecile ever to hold office in the usa
     
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