Reasons for us being ranked No. 8 in ODI cricket!

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  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    We are ranked No. 8 because of consistent wrong selections in the squad and playing 11 in odi cricket@@
    When umar amin had failed consistently why was he given so many chances again and again against South Africa and again against Australia in odi series? these many matches werent enuff to conclude that he simply cant play. and when Nasir Jamshed was able to win an odi series in South Africa although he dint get too many runs but in low scoring games he was able to see off Steyn, Philander and Morkel in atleast 3 matches 1 odi and 2 t20s, the way he set the tone of the match./ its not just the runs but how u get them creates an impression on opposition team as well as ur own players sitting in dressing room. And then Nasir was dropped for Umar Amin in 3rd match, where Nasir was just about to get a big total. this Tanveer Ahmed on Geo Super keeps on promoting Karachi players agenda and he never praises a pathan or a punjabi cricketer. I am not for regionalism but his agenda is always karachi players. Nasir had done all the hard work and then was his time to cash in on and they gave useless Umar Amin a chance again even though he has always been a massive flop!!
    Then team management was stubborn about playing only 4 regular bowlers and playing Harris Sohail as 5th option. they dint use Yasir Shah in the newzealand series at home. nor they used him in the world cup. where they needed to play Yasir Shah against all other teams he wasnt given a chance and against indians who play spin best in the world they played two leggies. Then the case of Younus Khan. Umar Akmal was preferred over him in the world cup. what has umar akmal ever done for Pakistan? can anybody tell me? how can u prefer an inexperienced Akmal over an all time legend like Younus and a far more experienced batsman around whom whole batting can bat, someone who could bat throughout the inns against a reckless Akmal who has only been gud for t20 cricket!! @SwingNSeam
     
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  3. Shahzad.Firdous
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    thank u! what are ur views on the topic?
     
  4. Shahzad.Firdous
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    not to forget Umar Akmal selected ahead of Azhar Ali in the World Cup squad!!
     
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    My views are: learn and move on from the past, we're finally starting to build a team with healthy competition for all 11 spots. Nobody's spot is safe which keeps everyone on their toes. Perform or get out but at the same time, management is giving everybody a fair run to prove themselves.

    They've done a good job so far and I hope it continues.
     
  6. Energy
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    Lulz once again. So we're ranked 8 because Umar Amin has played 15 ODIs in 4 years?
     
  7. Shahzad.Firdous
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    its a combination of selections like these over the last 4-5 yrs in odis. some of the selections have never made sense just like Fawad Alam still not getting a chance in test or odi cricket eventhough he has performed best amongst all youngsters and seems to be better and more consistent rungetter than Ahmed Shahzad, Asad Shafiq and even Azhar Ali!!
     
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    I think it's a mixture of few things IMO

    1) Misbah's defensive mindset

    2) Misbah was not sure of youngsters

    3) Players like Umar Akmal Afridi and other people were there so Misbah had to play a bit slow but he played too slow comparatively to how cricket is being played today
     
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    Because the players aren't talented enough and are some of the worst in the world, and we have a captain who couldn't play fast to save his life
     
  11. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Azhar Ali to abhi aaya hai 5 saal se to Misbah tha!!
     
  12. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Players have been very talented in my opinion but eik do parchi player yahan wahan daal dete hein jis se team haar jati hai woh eik hi player puri team ko le dubta hai just like umar amin!!
     
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    Like Misbah could play fast
     
  14. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Both Misbah and Azhar are very gud players and captains in my opinion but some of the selections are atrocious like Fawad Alam still doesnt get a chance even though so many seniors have retired from odi cricket!!
     
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    there was an opening as Hafeez got called and had to go to Chennai and Shan Masood was drafted in and Fawad Alam couldnt reach Slanka cus he had some visa issues!! There are always issues with the players that selectors dont want to select cus they dont have any parchi!!
     
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    You're right about selections - picking YK for the World Cup was a huge mistake.
     
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    Reasons for us being ranked No. 8 in ODI cricket?


    Just one!

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  18. s_h_a_f
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    Yup. He batted, bowled & fielded for the whole team.
     
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    He selected the players who batted (Asad & MaliK), bowled and fielded for the WHOLE team!
    He DID NOT select the players who could have batted (Fawad & Azhar), bowled and fielded for the WHOLE team!
     
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    Welcome back W63L35

    No special stats this time around?
     
  21. Aman
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    Poor selections, poor organisation of resources, lack of quality and a lack of understanding of modern one day cricket.
     
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    azhar scores at a good rate. I don't know why everyone thinks he has to score at a S.R of 200. for god's sake he is playing Tests and ODI's not T20
     
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    azhar scores at a good rate. I don't know why everyone thinks he has to score at a S.R of 200. for god's sake he is playing Tests and ODI's not T20
     
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    thats what i also say! and i think misbah also batted at a gud rate. dont know why everyone wants to see sixes all the time. they dont even know what batting is, u need to middle every single ball and need to hear the sweat sound of ball middled by the bat!! u get runs automatically by playing straight!!
     
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    well tbh, misbah's slowness is different... he was more like tuk tuk tuk n boom which put pressure on the other end to score fast. With azhar, he is good in rotating strike. Hence the batting is getting better, as other end feels less pressure.
     
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    This

    Totally agree Misbah played to many dot balls and then needed one big shot to release the preasue and doing so sometimes got out as well . Whereas so far Azhar has done a good job rotating the strike and not put too much pressure on the other end as well
     
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    Azhar is opening the inns whereas misbah was batting at a difficult middle order position!
     
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    Our bowling has gone down
     
  29. Shahzad.Firdous
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    its easy to criticize but its harder to go on the ground level and see the real reasons why a team has declined. When Umar Amin got so many chances in the odis, tests and t20s over last 6 yrs and failed to deliver even once why was he kept on getting selected and on the other end, everytime Fawad Alam comes into the team he scores a gud score. Same thing was done to Asim Kamal after the retirement of Inzamam and when Shoaib Malik became captain. him and Faisal Iqbal kept on getting selected and had to be ultimately dumped.; Faisal Iqbal Javed Miandads nephew with a test average of 25 in 25 tests compared to Asim Kamal who averaged 38 in 12 tests with 8 50s to his name!!
     
  30. Shahzad.Firdous
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    bowling attack kept u afloat in the tournament in the world cup otherwise u were out in the first round!!
     

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