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Release the clutch (Imamulhaq)... Go into 5th gear!!

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  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shahzad.Firdous Cornered Tiger

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    Jab Imam ko maarne ka task diya hi nahi phir woh kiyun ulte sulte shot maar ker out hota hai maarne ke liye Fakhar ko bheja tha na it was Fakhars job to take the risk!! All we were asking Imam to do was to bat through innings agar achi ball par jati hai koi baat nahi but dont get out playing an aggressive shot that was the role he was assigned!!
     
  2. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shahzad.Firdous Cornered Tiger

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    Masla Imam ke runs se bhi nahi masla Imam ki technique se hai! he has got a very strange kind of technique! Jab batsman andar khel raha ho itne overs batting karne ke baad bhi convince nahi kar pa raha ho to jo uske baad aane wale players hein woh bhi uncertain ho jate hein!!

    @Fireworks11

    His technique is not suited to limited overs cricket this is the problem! He cant play big shots either when required to do so!! In my opinion, he should concentrate on playing test cricket where he can be very good in my opinion!! They should pick Abid Ali right hander as partner to Fakhar!!
     
  3. Shahzad.Firdous
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    I think Imam's performance was not all that bad throughout tournament but his ugly technique and his inability to play big shots has a negative effect on entire team!!
     
  4. Fireworks11
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    There are more culpable people in the side than imam. End of.
     
  5. Shahzad.Firdous
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    There are. But burayi starts from him. When he says cricket is top 3 batsmen game he is totally correct in saying that but then why doesnt he follow this principle of his and just bat and bat and bat! Inzamam ko batting itni pasand thi ke log bowling kara kara kar thak jate the aur woh bat chorne ka naam nahi leta usko sirf do hi kaam aate the eik khaana aur doosra batting karna!! He needs to develop that kind of hunger of his uncle if he wants to be any good for his team!! Middle order wont win you too many games in todays cricket!! Its the top 3 batsmen's game this one day cricket and top 3 have to set the tone and get the big runs to their name!!
     
  6. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    I hope Bangla wins today and Imam's century does not become the talk of the town and bandwagon for everyone to jump on.

    Go Bangla !!
     
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  7. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    This is disgusting. How can you ever root against your own team? Not to mention, how can your hate be so strong that you root against a player doing well.

    #FakeFans
     
  8. iZeeshan
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    Imam is a freaking champion, gimme a break. Dude is young and performing, already with a target on his back. I think he will be a top 3 opener for Pakistan at the end of his career.
     
  9. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Agree with you!!
     
  10. Fireworks11
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    Classic Pakistani fans.. picking on the guy who is performing lol.
     
  11. Shahzad.Firdous
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    He is performing alright but he can do a lot better than this!! He wasted such great opportunities in this world cup and got just 1 100 in last game. I expected him to get atleast 4 centuries in this world cup! Imam and Babar were my go to men for the World Cup!!
     
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    If he wants to win a World Cup for us, he needs to score atleast 4 centuries in a World Cup!!
     
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    thats correct. hes shittyman.

    he scored more than Fakhar yes, but at two thirds of his strike rate. the average scores in this tournament have been around 300, so thats a 100sr, and he has been scoring in the 60s. this isnt a surprise to anyone with more than the memory of one innings against Zimbabwe, or one innings against South Africa on a track where the teams score 400 routinely.

    compare him on an apples to apples basis against the other openers in contention for Odis, I know this might be very difficult for you because it requires some thinking:

    Fakhar, imam, shan, abid for example.

    Look at comparable conditions eg domestic LA

    Look over three seasons to smooth out dips in form and purple patches to get a sense of the true quality of the player.

    The last time I did this a few weeks ago, and posted up on this board somewhere, from memory shan was averaging 70, Abid 50+, Fakhar close to 50 and Imam 30.

    so thats apples to apples, same pitches, extended data set and sample size directly comparable statistics.

    So in what world, other than the head coach sucking up to the chief selector, would imam be selected ahead of these other three players? in what world is shan ejected after trying him for one series against Aussies, where he outperformed imam as it happens, but imam gets to play five or so series, failing against most of the serious teams and bumping up his averages against Ireland, Afghanistan and Zimbabwe? in what world is this behaviour then condoned by fans?

    total bs.
     
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    It's pathetic man. As if we don't have enough to deal with on the screen, we've got people like this who absolutely infuriate me with blatantly incorrect takes.
     
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    He could have done better especially v Aus. But Fakhar lack of any starts was alarming, putting more pressure on Imam. Hafeez also didn’t perform when needed.
     
  16. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Fakhar had gotten a start against India. He got 62 in that match. He was looking good for a big hundred but Babar got out from the other end and match was already way out of reach for Pakistan. We were chasing a stiff target already!! As a result, Fakhar succumbed to that pressure! When one batsman is looking to take indian spinners to cleaners, other should just support him instead of going after them himself unnecessarily and getting out as if already there was less trouble!!
     
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    Fakhar usually plays 2-3 big innings in a tournament and when he performs, he singlehandedly wins the game for us!!
     
  18. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Because we need to expose Imam parchi, and not let this useless century cover this crappy scoring rate
     
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    What the hell you mean it's a useless century? And what the hell do you mean it's a crappy scoring rate? Do you know of other batsmen that can score 100s at a run a ball? What about a 150+ at over 120 SR?

    Yeah I didn't think so.
     
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    He's played in ONE freaking tournament. Get out of here.
     
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  21. Shahzad.Firdous
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    he didnt do it this wc but atleast he is a potential matchwinner and he is assigned a particular role and he was looking good for a big one against india before babar spoiled it for him!! Fakhar is a big match player for sure!
     
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    Lol Babar spoiled it for him. If Fakhar is so good why couldn't he just keep fighting and win it for us? Stop it man you're embarrassing yourself.
     
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  23. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Fakhar is a must atleast in limited overs cricket!! Imams game is more suited to test cricket!! He can be a run making machine in test cricket Imam but in limited overs cricket he is going to lose you more matches than win you!!
     
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    iZeeshan Whispering Death

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    Also how did Babar spoil it for him? he got an unplayable delivery.
     
  25. iZeeshan
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    Ok buddy. Fakhar hasn't won us a single match but let's get rid of the guy that's going to win us at least one, if not has already contributed to a win before in this tournament. What rubbish.
     
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  26. Shahzad.Firdous
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    yes he did get an unplayable one but the point is with Fakhar looking good to take apart indian spinners all Babar needed to do was just protect himself and get to other end and he could not manage to do so!! these are small pressure points which you need to win if you have to win big matches!! You have to be mentally tough to get through this type of situation but thats what great batsmen are made up of!!
     
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    Bhai , fakhar is a fluke. Said it then after 2017 champs trophy, saying it now.
     
  28. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Imam is winning this match for us but this is irrelevant now and more or less a dead rubber! Fakhars CT Final innings is worth all the failures he is giving us!!
     
  29. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Fakhar on his good day has the ability to win a match on his own and that game can be a world cup final or semi final as well!! He is that good!! He is more like Saeed Anwar when he first arrived on the scene Imran did not pick him cus he was too loose! Saeed improved his defense and then Imran got him in the team!! Imran would hate if somebody plays a loose shot to get out, you get out to a good delivery fine but dont gift your wicket thats what imran used to tell everyone!!
    Imam is more like Aamir Sohail, solid defense, similar technique, similar build etc!!
     
  30. iZeeshan
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    No match in a WC is a dead rubber. We finish fifth, one above our rankings. And beat Bangladesh who's fans are annoying af and can now shove it.
     
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    Imam is a good batsman but he needs to adapt to modern cricket

    Get more shots in his range, he only ever plays the same 5-6 shots.
     
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    Don't know what you've seen of Saeed Anwar , fakhar can't be further away from the technical brilliance that was Anwar
     
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    Mods @ASLI-PATHAN: please give warning to @godzilla as he is revengefully marking all my posts as "disagree/dislike" unnecessarily
     
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  34. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Biggest problem Imamul Haq has in limited overs cricket, he does not have range of shots, he has a very limited skill set under which he operates!! You need to be a much more dynamic batsman than Imam is todays odi cricket!!
    Imam is made for test cricket, next Misbah ul Haq!! Baba e tuk tuk!!
     
  35. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Add to that ugly and strange kind of technique and stance of his!! Inzamam ne apne bhatije ko doosra Aamir Sohail banaya hai!!
     
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    Bhai , problem is with you classifying fakhar as a Saeed Anwar type batsman. If anything , Saeed Anwar is technically perfect. Don't even see fakhar with his deficiency being even close. Dunno what green tinged close sightedness you suffer from. But as per me Saeed Anwar was the most technically correct opener from the subcontinent (even including srt). It's another thing on how srt mitigated his deficiencies.

    But to say that Saeed Anwar was technically lacking and aamer Sohail was perfect technically , Bhai , get your viewpoints checked.
     
  37. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Plus, he is an obvious parchi.
    And I don't support corruption and nepotism.
     
  38. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Saeed Anwar when he first arrived on the scene was same as Fakhar is right now! He improved his game after Imran did not pick him for 92 WC~~ Imran asked him to strengthen his defense and then come back!!
     
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    Also to continue , playing loose shots away from the body or high risk shots doesn't mean that the founding principles of techniques etc are deficient.
     
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    That's on shot selection majorly. Stop taking every cricketing quote that comes out of Imran as given. Imran felt Umar akmal needed to play at #4
     

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