Shahzad.Firdous - Lineups thread

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  1. Fireworks11
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    fahim ashraf as opener ? that too outside asia.. @Patriot
     
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    its actually me who suggested that to him :p

    worth a try, need an explosive slogger to open in test. But we do have Fakhar now
     
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    facepalm.. this is what happens when u mingle with OP too much
     
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    Azhar Ali and Hafeez could open the innings, Babar Azam could bat at 3, Harris Sohail 4 and Asad Shafiq 5, Sarfraz 6, Fahim Ashraf at 7 and then the tail. I would be more interested in including Hussain Talat than Fahim Ashraf and have him batting at 6 than 7, Sarfraz would bat at 7! Point of including Hussain Talat or Fahim Ashraf is that we need a pace allrounder in test cricket for conditions outside Asia! Problem with Fahim is that he is hit and miss and Hussain Talat is a much more compact batsman plus can bowl with some pace too when needed! Talat can be molded into an effective cricketer in test cricket specially! With 4 specialist bowlers, you wont want a Fahim Ashraf as your allrounder, you will need someone who can bat properly preferably at No. 6!
     
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    facepalm... u dont need allrounder to open in tests. u need specialist openers to open the innings in tests.
     
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    Azhar and Hafeez have generally mostly batted in top order through out their careers! Hussain Talat can bat at 6! Players yehi kheleinge it is upto team management to decide how to tinker with this batting order! Do they play Hussain at 6 or open! They are most likely to play Talat at 6 but I prefer Azhar coming in at one drop but also would love to see Babar Azam elevated to No. 3 position in tests! Babar has come of age finally!! It would be perfect if Azhar and Hafeez/ Fakhar can open and Babar can bat at 3, Harris and Asad are fixed on 4 and 5, Talat can bat at 6, Sarfraz bats at 7, and then the tail Yasir Hassan Abbas and Shaheen~~
     
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    i hear u..if hafeez is dropped.. they could try:

    azhar, fakhar opening
    babar 3
     
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    Pakistan All time test 11:

    1. Saeed Anwar
    2. Aamir Sohail
    3. Younus Khan
    4. Javed Miandad (VC)
    5. Inzamam (VC3)
    6. Imran Khan (C)
    7. Moin Khan
    8. Wasim Akram (VC2)
    9. Waqar Younus
    10. Mushtaq Ahmed
    11. Shoaib Akhtar / Saqlain Mushtaq
    ODI 11:
    1. Saeed Anwar
    2. Aamir Sohail
    3. Imran Khan (C)
    4. Javed Miandad (VC)
    5. Inzamam (VC3)
    6. Mohd Yousuf
    7. Moin Khan
    8. Wasim Akram (VC2)
    9. Saqlain Muhstaq
    10. Waqar Younus
    11. Shoaib Akhtar / Muhstaq Ahmed
    T20 11:
    1. Salman Butt
    2. Kamran Akmal
    3. Shahid Afridi (VC)
    4. Younus Khan (C)
    5. Misbah (VC)
    6. Hafeez
    7. Razzaq
    8. Amir
    9. Saeed Ajmal
    10. Umar Gul
    11. Mohd Irfan
     
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    y u need 3 vc?

    and misbah in all time t20? r u high ?
     
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    Misbah ka replacement kon hai. i have selected all players in t20s from those who have actually played t20 cricket!!
    and 3 VCs cus Javed, Inzi and Wasim Akram (Buzdar) have all been captains in past and prominent players in our cricket history).
     
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    so saeed and waqar have not been prominent players? use one rule for all or discard the rule.

    anyone is better than misbah in t20
     
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    Saeed did not become Captain and Waqar was a poor captain poor coach greatest disaster we ever had!!
     
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    greatest disaster lol. ok. trim ur 3 vc to just 1. no-one selects 3 vc when naming a lineup
     
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    who was better than misbah at t20? Name one!
     
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    Captaincy record if you check Imran, Wasim, Javed, Inzi and Misbah have been the great captains we have had! Waqar did not have a great record as Captain as well as Coach and he was either Captain or Coach in most of our World Cups which we lost!!
     
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    You can also go with this lineup in t20s:

    1. Salman Butt
    2. Kamran Akmal
    3. Shahid Afridi (VC)
    4. Shoaib Malik
    5. Misbah (VC)
    6. Younus Khan (C)
    7. Razzaq
    8. Hafeez
    9. Amir
    10. Saeed Ajmal
    11. Gul
     
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    i will even take umar akmal or imran nazir over misbah in t20
     
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    i was on about waqar the ferocious fast bowler
     
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    lol @ umar akmal imran nazir eik over to batting hoti nahi hai in se kiya khelenge they are good for nothing!!
     
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    he was a ferocious fast bowler indeed but as a captain and coach he was just poor cus he lacked in man management skills, he not only lost world cups for us but also wasted Ahmed Shahzad and Umar Akmal, who could have served us right now at some level!!
     
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    ok
     
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    better than misbah in t20s
     
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    Tests
    1. Imam
    2. Shan
    3. Babar
    4. Azhar
    5. Asad (VC)
    6. Talat / Shadab or Imad
    7. Sarfraz (C)
    8. Amir
    9. Yasir Shah
    10. Abbas
    11. Shaheen
    Reserves: Hassan Ali, Shadab, Imad, Harris Sohail, Fakhar Zaman, Rizwan.

    ODIs
    1. Imam
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Hafeez
    5. Malik
    6. Imad
    7. Sarfraz
    8. Shadab
    9. Amir
    10. Hassan
    11. Shaheen
    Reserves: Junaid, Fahim, Yasir Shah, Rizwan, Shan, Harris Sohail.
     
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    ODI Captain should be Malik.
     
  26. s_h_a_f
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    No
     
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    Tests
    1. Hayden
    2. Langer
    3. Ponting (VC)
    4. Mark Waugh
    5. Steve Waugh (C)
    6. Symonds / Watson
    7. Gilchrist
    8. Warne
    9. Gellespie
    10. Lee
    11. McGrath
    ODIs
    1. Mark Waugh
    2. Gilchrist
    3. Ponting (VC)
    4. Bevan
    5. Steve Waugh (C)
    6. Symonds
    7. Watson
    8. Warne
    9. Lee
    10. Gellespie
    11. McGrath
    Pakistan (Tests)
    1. Saeed Anwar
    2. Aamir Sohail
    3. Younus Khan
    4. Javed Miandad
    5. Inzamam
    6. Imran Khan (C)
    7. Moin Khan
    8. Wasim Akram
    9. Saqlain Mushtaq
    10. Waqar Younus
    11. Shoaib Akhtar / Mushtaq Ahmed
    ODIs
    1. Saeed Anwar
    2. Aamir Sohail
    3. Imran Khan (C)
    4. Javed Miandad
    5. Inzamam
    6. Mohd Yousuf
    7. Moin Khan
    8. Wasim Akram
    9. Saqlain Mushtaq
    10. Waqar Younus
    11. Shoaib Akhtar / Mushtaq Ahmed
     
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    My all time Pakistani Test XI.

    Saeed Anwer
    Majid Khan
    Younus Khan
    Javed Miandad
    Inzamam ul haq
    Imran Khan
    Moin Khan
    Wasim Akram
    Waqar Younus
    Saqlain Mushtaq
    Yasir Shah/Shoaib Akhter

    Reserves
    Tasleem Arif (wk), Fazal Mahmood, Mushtaq Ahmed, Mohammed Yousuf, Mushtaq Mohammed.

    Sent from knowhere.
     
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    Almost same 11 as mine except for Majid Khan in place of whom I selected Aamir Sohail cus Sohail is a part time left arm spinner as well! His bowling gives him an advantage as you need Hafeez type 2nd or 3rd spinner in your attack to support your main spinner(s). Rest of the 11 is almost same!! With Wasim, Waqar, Imran and Shoaib as your frontline pacers and Saqlain as your specialist spinner, you will need someone who can bowl part time spin therefore you need someone like Aamir Sohail. Similarly, if you play 2nd spinner in place of Shoaib, then you need 3rd spinner as in UAE conditions mostly, Pakistan played 3 spinners in Ajmal, Rehman and Hafeez and lately Yasir Shah, Zulfiqar Babar and Hafeez/ Malik.
     
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    If we select Mushtaq Mohammed instead of Inzi, than this third option can be covered as he was a genuine spin bowling all-rounder.
    You know, he once made a double century and took a fifer in the SAME test..
    He is only one of two people to do so (if my memory serves me correctly)

    Can you guess the reason why i have picked Yousuf in the squad but not in the XI?

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    Instead of dropping Inzi, who is one of the best batsman to have ever played for Pakistan, why not drop Majid Khan?
     
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    Yousuf was a great batsman but others like Inzi, Younus and Javed achieved greater heights as test cricketers even though Yousuf was the most classiest out of all!!
     
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    You need specialist openers, can't have a part timer doing the job, day in and day out.
    And Mushtaq was more than adequate batsman, was the youngest centurion in history for many years (haven't checked the records for some time)

    I guess if you don't need a second spinner, you won't/shouldn't need a third either.
    In such case, Inzi should play.

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    I don't doubt his batting abilities, just his fielding ones. With him, You are basically playing with ten fielders....
    Than there is his CAPTAINCY AMBITION, and a VERY misplaced one at that.
    (He didn't had the people skills)

    Remember all of his plotting and sabotaging against Younus?

    Sent from knowhere.
     
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    Tests
    1. Imam
    2. Shan
    3. Babar
    4. Azhar
    5. Asad
    6. Talat / Imad Wasim
    7. Sarfraz (C)
    8. Amir
    9. Yasir Shah
    10. Abbas
    11. Shaheen
    Reserves: Umar Siddiq, Hasnain, Imad Wasim, Shadab, Harris Sohail, Fakhar Zaman.

    ODIs
    1. Ahmed Shahzad
    2. Fakhar Zaman
    3. Babar Azam
    4. Hafeez
    5. Malik
    6. Imad / Fahim
    7. Sarfraz (C)
    8. Shadab
    9. Amir
    10. Hassan
    11. Shaheen
    Reserves: Hasnain, Fahim, Umar Sidddiq, Imam, Yasir Shah, Harris Sohail.
     
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    Best test team:

    1. Imam / Talat / Shadab
    2. Shan
    3. Babar
    4. Azhar
    5. Harris Sohail
    6. Asad Shafiq
    7. Sarfraz
    8. Amir
    9. Yasir Shah
    10. Abbas
    11. Shaheen
     
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    When is the autobiography out?
     
  38. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Will take a lot of time to write but when it will come out it will be something very special! I am a perfectionist by nature!!
     
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    Looking forward it. Don’t forget a special All Time Xl edition.
     
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    With World Cup just round the corner, what is your final 11 and 15 for Pakistan? Mine is following. Harris Sohail has sealed his place atleast in the squad with a century here.

    1. Imam
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Hafeez / Harris Sohail
    5. Shoaib Malik
    6. Sarfraz
    7. Shadab
    8. Fahim
    9. Hassan
    10. Amir
    11. Shaheen
    Reserves: Abbas / Junaid, Rizwan, Harris Sohail, Ahmed Shahzad.
     

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