Shoaib Malik - Is he really the Devil Incarnate?

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  1. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    It seems that everyone has it in for Shoaib Malik.

    Yousuf singled Malik out as someone who did his best to undermine him.

    Under Younis's leadership he was thought to be plotting and conspiring to bring down the paranoid dummy captain.

    And now the witch hunt... sorry 'the committee' has found that Malik should be banned for a year. We havent been given any reasons or proof as of yet but perhaps that will be forthcoming.

    What do you think?

    Is Malik really the root of all evil or is he just another man with a plan to be captain like our heroes Waqar, Wasim, Akhtar, Younis and Afridi.
     
  2. Wasim
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    Wasim Smooth Operator

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    Well the Karachi crowd did try to stone him twice in two matches. :))
     
  3. Inswinger
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    Inswinger Tracer Bullet

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    Malik isn't an angel but I honestly don't believe he's as bad as everyone makes him out to be. I think this really started when he was given the captaincy once Inzi retired. Seniors lik MoYo and Afridi were passed over in favor of Malik. I still recall the match against Sr Lank in which Malik carried his bat to the end but the seniors gave their wickets away. Something was not right.
     
  4. Feather
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    Complete BS if you ask me. If it isn't then anyone within the right mind would make this man the Captain. I would definitely do that. If he can get an entire team to go against the Captain not once but twice that too against two different people and can do this while he is not even in the team or not playing is impressive to say the least.

    Let's not forget his impressive record as Captain within the domestic cricket. Yes, hasn't proven himself in tests but so have the rest of the team :)

    If pictures are worth anything then there is something fishy. We have already seen Malik being hugged and kissed by Afridi. Malik has openly said Afridi asked him to recently take the Captaincy and he wanted Afridi back as the Captain.

    Younis Khan did not drop Malik in fact he gave him more responsibility. Even gave him the ball more often. I do believe Malik and Yousaf might have a personal problem.

    Anyway lets see what reasons are given for his and Rana's ban.
     
  5. AZK
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    AZK Emerging Player

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    bakwaas...the "senior" players never really appreciated the fact that he was chosen as the Captain after the WC, and they never supported him as much as they could...the lad has for the most part behaved like a gentleman amongst all the allegations thrown at him by various parties.
     
  6. Observer
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    Observer Emerging Player

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    Maybe it is more about the behaviour of the crowd rather than Malik.
     
  7. Observer
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    Observer Emerging Player

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    It's a matter about the board becoming competent. They are used to divert the attention towards the players to hide their own incompetent policies or rather lack of ANY policy. PCB is a money machine used in turn by various circus artists. The losers are most players!
     
  8. Juggernaut
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    Juggernaut Cricistan's Pehlwan

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    No but he is the spawn of Lucifer.
     
  9. the_game
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    the_game Youngsta Beauty

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    The report was comprised not only from the input of Yousuf, but also other members of the touring party to New Zealand and Australia. And if this doesn't still convince you, your love for Malik knows no bounds Merc ;) !
     
  10. Rizzy
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    Rizzy Talented

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    Yousuf and Malik are fighting like a married couple, at the end of the day they will still sleep in the same bed and get over it

    :lol:
     
  11. Saqlain Doosra
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    Saqlain Doosra Youngsta Beauty

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    If he is trouble maker they should teach him a lesson but not a year ban. If not guilty then board needs to come clean and let everyone know.

    I was told by people about malik's gambling habits, fixing before Malik captain became a captain and this was from someone living in Islamabad. Not sure how much truth her was telling but since allagtion do make sense about some of his points.
     
  12. ghulam35
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    ghulam35 Emerging Player

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    i dont think malik is innocent as he looks or comes out to be, but dont think hes guilty as people make it out to be either. he definately deserves some punishment, the one year might be light for all the allegedly fighting and disruptions hes caused.
     
  13. Mercenary
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    Mercenary The Lone Wolf

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    Would that be the Yousuf who got a life ban whilst Malik only got one year? I wonder who's more to blame! ;)
     
  14. Feather
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    Much as I love reading game posts when it comes to players he is no different then many young fans. Loves his fav ones and hates the one he doesn't like...no merit there at all. As you can see by him asking for the bans on the senior players be reversed but some how those asked to probe the issues...handed a tougher punishment to his fav players.
     
  15. the_game
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    the_game Youngsta Beauty

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    Aray yaar Feather bhai, I have beef with Malik simply because he is not a good enough cricketer; the politics game is being played by everyone so he's not alone to blame. I do not think for a second that Malik's exclusion would do anything to hurt our test match record, or even ODI's for that matter. Yousuf and Younis, on the other hand, are the two best batsmen in the country, and the reasons for their bans are being kept private, which seems strange to me.

    Merc, get some inside scoop on the bans mentioned above. I guarantee you Yousuf will be back faster than Malik into the national side ;) (not saying this because Yousuf is a saint, but because of the nature of the tours coming up).
     
  16. Feather
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    I am the opposite. Younis should never be anywhere near our ODI team. If you think he is our best ODI bat...I would be shocked! The amount of time he has simply given his wicket away or gotten out on zero is laughable.

    Other then tests Younis has never really ever played a brilliant knock under pressure. Which reminds me if I ever a fan of a cricketer...It would have had to be Inzi the big man with a big heart. Which leads me to Yousaf.

    Again before he left for ICL he was scoring runs for fun. However when has he ever played innings under pressure or ever done an Inzi?

    As for Malik. From what I can remember he could barely hold the bat. Worked hard on the game and played with the straight bat. When finally promoted up the order...for a good while he was one of the best number three we had.

    If you want to talk politics...lets talk Malik then. Why on earth did we expect a tail ender to solve our opening problems why people expect him to be doing this not Younis or Afridi. It is also because of Younis Khan that Malik lost the number three spot when Imran Khan kept going on about it...Younis has never looked good..in fact he might have cost us handful of games with his batting or non batting I should say.

    You simply can't take player move him around every other day expect him to do well. While he might not be making big hundreds. I dare you to find me someone who is better in terms of rotating the strike from the very first ball or under pressure then Malik within our team? When he is coming down the order you mostly see 20-30's from him nearly 100% strike with all singles and doubles. Gets out trying to hit out...

    Anyway I for one have no problem with Malik. There are least couple of players that deserve to go before its Malik's turn.
     
  17. ghulam35
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    ghulam35 Emerging Player

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    The thing with malik is, he came in the team for his all rounder ability, but he hardly bowls now, so he's just in the team for his batting, is he good enough just to be in the team as a specialist batsman or are there better alternatives for a specialist batting position? I think the latter is better with guys like Saeed bin nasir/Naved Yasin/Umar Amin waiting in the wings...
     
  18. Feather
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    We always like hear how a certain player is so much better but the fact is they are not. Guys like hafeez, farhat and Imran Nazir score very heavily within the domestic cricket but they fail at the international stage.

    I am all for giving chances to youngster however it shouldn't come at an expense of an player who earned his spot. Imagine working hard for so many years on your job and you finally get the position you wanted...then taken away simply because in couple of years you won't be with the company or your just getting old...unless some very is extremely talented...they have to wait and earn their call up.

    I would love to have a team in which everyone is a world class batsman...however least in my opinion...Malik is better both within the ODI and T20 format the Younis Khan and now possibly Yousaf too. they too took a long time to settle.

    Lets not even talk about the openers...so if we are going to start replacing guys...it has to start with those who do not deserve to be in the team first.
     

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