Should Junaid be Part of Pakistan WC Squad?

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  1. sabeeh
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    I feel Pakistan will take 5 fast bowlers. 3 are more less confirmed even though Aamir is not performing very well.

    Aamir
    Shaheen
    Hassan

    I feel the competetion is between Juanid/Usman Shinwari/Faheem. Out of these 3 i think 2 will go to England for WC.

    Faheem will probably get a nod because he can bat as well and he might give pakistan option to play 4 fast bowlers if Pakistan decided to with go only 1 spinner.

    Last Spot, I feel Junaid should be selected ahead of Usman. Usman has looked really ordinary. When from the first bowl you start bowling round the wicket to right hander, there is problem. He need to bring the ball back into the batsman to be successful.

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. Shahzad.Firdous
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    I dont think Junaid should be selected. I think these 4 fast bowlers should be selected and Fahim or Hassan can be selected as an allrounder, I rate Hassan as as good an allrounder as Fahim right now!

    My 4 pacers are:

    Amir, Abbas, Shaheen, Shinwari.

    Allrounder:
    Hassan or Fahim.
     
  3. Inswinger
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    Other than Shaheen Afridi I don't have faith in any other bowler to be able to pick up wickets at this point. Amir is having a terrible year and has done nothing recently to suggest he's gonna find his swing. Shinwari blows hot and cold, and is going to fail more often than deliver. Hasan Ali has regressed and needs to prove that this is just an aberration. So, given the performance of our fast bowlers we have to bring Junaid in before the WC and see what he's got. Too many question marks in this side with only months to go before the World Cup.
     
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  4. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Question should be whether to include Abbas into odi team or not instead of Junaid who is not bowling as well as he used to once like india tour in 2012!
     
  5. Inswinger
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    Faheem Ashraf bats as well as Hasan Ali or even Amir. Not much better. He doesn't deserve to be there as an all rounder.
     
  6. Del
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    There is only Shaheen, who is taking wickets with new ball, nobody is raising hands.

    We have tried Faheem, Amir and Usman, but all these look toothless.

    Juni used to give us early wickets (I dont know how), so certainly its worth to give him a full series. He cant do worse then the said bowler.

    We wouldnt win games in WC until we take wickets with ball and also in the middle of the innings.
     
  7. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Abbas should get a chance in odis to prove himself!
     
  8. Del
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    Sure, give him next series, but if he fail then please dont give usual excuse 'we need to invest in him', because there is no time left in WC.
     
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    Give Junaid and Abbas a full series b/f WC, Abbas though is going to go for runs in UAE in onedayers.
     
  10. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Junaid picked wickets against Bangladesh but us mein spark nazar nahi araha he is looking like Imran Khan we had couple of years ago Australia ja ker flunk hogaya tha!!
     
  11. ASLI-PATHAN
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    Junaid should be given a full series against Australia and possibly England too. Amir does not deserve a place right now but he should also be given a series. They should rest Shaheen against Australia and bring him back against England to get used to conditions. Faheem is NOT an all rounder. And bowling alone does not get him into the team. My 5 fast bowlers for WC will be

    Shaheen
    Hassan
    Junaid
    Abbas/Amir
    Shinwari

    And one more important point is we need a mixture of left handed and right handed pacers in the squad. Can't go with all left handers.
     
  12. Patriot
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    Yes 1000 times Yes. Shaheen is going to get hammered in england. He’s still fresh and early

    CT is proof of why we need experienced bowler like Junaid to open with Amir
     
  13. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Fahim ki bowling is waqt Hassan se achi hai aur Hassan ki batting Fahim se achi!!
     
  14. sabeeh
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    Juanid actually has done well whenever he has got the chance. Just like last game in Asia Cup against Bangladesh, he got the 4 wickets.

    You are right, Abbas should get the opportunity as well against Aus but not sure UAE conditions would suit his type of bowling In onedays. He should definitely be tried.
     
  15. sabeeh
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    Not really. Faheem bowling doesnt have any penetration. Hassan is definitely better and will be better in English conditions.
     
  16. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Hassan I feel is not bowling as quick as he should! Whereas, Fahim zor laga kar bowling kara raha tha South Africa mein in my opinion!!
     
  17. Del
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    BTW: good thread @sabeeh - its good to discuss opening bowling options.
     
  18. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Junaid got those wickets but us mein spark nazar nahi araha he is not bowling with same passion as he used to! someone needs to ignite some passion in him the way he was bowling in CT and India tour 2012 and SA tour odi series in which Anwar and Bilawal played and he defended 7 runs against Duminy!!
     
  19. Del
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    Taking wickets, ticking all the boxes but still not finding place in the national team because of favoritism.

    On contrary, none performers are getting leeway in spite of not taking wickets, so can you really blame him?
     
  20. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Bhai wickets koi bhi le sakta hai weak opposition ke against but kis tarha se le raha hai woh bhi matter karta hai Amir may not be picking as many wickets all the time but he still bowls the way it should be done!! The way Amir sets up the batsmen even now is exemplary!! Dont forget Amir had a 5 yr gap but still there seems hunger in him, he runs in every delivery has ran himself thirsty in last two years and still keeps on going whether he gets wickets or not! Junaid was doing the same for good 3-4 years but he started to lose it as those UAE wickets took a toll on him! It's time he recharged his batteries and learn something from age less Mohd Sami who keeps on bowling quick at the age of 38 doesnt matter if he gets a chance or not~~
     
  21. Del
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    I literally, literally stopped ready at the bold line.
     
  22. Del
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    Del Whispering Death

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    We need expert opinion on this - @axl100mph - share your thoughts please and also comment on post # 20.
     
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    Expert?
     
  25. Del
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    Indeed, @axl100mph knows pace bowling better than many here and I rate his opinion highly.
     
  26. Ahson8
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    What is the hype about Junaid ? He is the same level as Amir or Shinwari.
     
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    having plethora of left hand fast bowlers can be a blessing or curse .
    the way i look at it , as a left handed fast bowler you need to have skill set to bring the ball back into the right handed batsmen otherwise you can't get a batsman out on that angle ( because bowled or LBW goes out of the equation most of the times ).
    i back my point by the fact that many right handed fast bowlers have had better s/r then the great wasim.
    for this very reason i feel right handed bowlers are also important in the setup .
    playing 3 left handed fast bowlers ( who run hot n cold ) can be suicidal.
     
  28. Prince Pathan
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    LOL

    Yeah okay then
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  29. Prince Pathan
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    Anyway

    Better bowler than Amir and Faheem anyway
     
  30. Ahson8
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    He is okay but we should be looking at better bowlers who create more opportunities like in the mould of Shaheen
     
  31. axl100mph
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    Junaid is not going to trouble the best batsmen consistently...just does not swing the ball, and the pace just isnt there. On a day where there is seam movement on offer, he is an okay option, but we really need somebody else.
     
  32. Mohammed Bilal
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    Lots of commies mix swing and seam movement or is it just there is a combination of both? say if I bowl an inswinger and it moves in the air slightly before pitching but then hits the pitch and seams in as well. Amir dismissal to Sharma in champions trophy final it’s called Inswinger but the ball clearly seamed of the pitch.
     
  33. Shahzad.Firdous
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    4 seamers should be:
    Amir, Abbas, Shaheen and Junaid
    Allrounder should be:
    Hussain Talat
     
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    I'd bring Junaid back. He's a solid bowler and does pick up the odd wicket or two. I'm not sure if Shinwari should come - he's too prone to being expensive and I'm not sure that's something we can afford. Amir rarely goes for over 5.0, maybe that's all we should expect from him.
     
  35. Mohsin
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    HELL YES!

    It's a no brainer whatsoever.

    Amir
    Hassan
    Shaheen
    Junaid

    Shinwari is too mentally fragile for WC. Junaid should easily be a fixture in the team, its pathetic he's always ignored.

    Would also like to see Rumman otthe plane though his injury and lack of cricket recently has messed things up. So unlucky.
     
  36. Prince Pathan
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    Junaid
    Hasan
    Shaheen
    Rumman

    Three of those worked very well in the champions trophy before Amir had one good game. One was unfairly dropped to accommodate Amir after a fantastic bowling display.

    Amir doesn't justify being in the team. Guy cannot pick up wickets. Duty of the strike bowler is to pick up wickets early on.
     
  37. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    Why are you guys picking 4 pacers? Sarfraz clearly mentioned they will take 5 pacers with them.

    Amir
    Junaid
    Hasan
    Shaheen
    Faheem (unless Rumman or somebody else has a great PSL)
     
  38. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    I think people underrate Junaid a lot - I agree he doesn't have swing or pace, but after his injury he has been accurate in his line and lengths, consistently bowled on the 4th stump channel so it's difficult to get him away in the powerplay overs. The odd one can get nicked too.
     
  39. Ahson8
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    Ahson8 Sultan of Swing

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    Junaid and Rumman are also average at best, stop hyping them up. Fahim has been trash as well.

    We need to look at better pacers in the psl
     
  40. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    Faheem is not even a bowler. Cant bowl. Cant bat. Cant field.
     

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