This series loss is on Mickey Arthur!

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  1. Karachi-King
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    The guy who lost us our first ever series in UAE since adopting it as home

    Only Pakistan coach to have lost more Tests in UAE than won in UAE
     
  2. iho
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    Not only this series but also the game against WI last year in UAE. He is not getting the right combination on the ground


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  3. Desi_Joker
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    Mickey is a big part of it, but he is not the only one. Sarfraz has been good in ODIs, but he seems to have lost the plot when it comes to team selection in the test arena. Why would you tinker with a formula which has been so successful for you for a better part of the last half decade.
     
  4. ComradeVenom
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    Yeah Mickey has the majority of the blame.

    Man was kept awake at night by batsmen failing but not by poor bowling selection.
     
  5. Karachi-King
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    As per

    He didn't tinker with the formula. He wanted two spinners but Mickey overruled and went with one

    And even now Mickey is saying he doesn't regret going with the sole spinner

    Stubborn waste of space
     
  6. Desi_Joker
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    I know we are all frustrated with the loss, but please keep your emotions and your language in check.

    On Mickey overruling Sarfraz on going with 1 spinner instead of 2, if that really is the case, then the people that are in power in the PCB need to call Mickey in and ask for some accountability.
     
  7. Express Pace
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    We have our best two test batsman by far, we are in a transition period now. I am concerned about our bowling but we may need to move away from these dead pitches because we can no longer bat on them.
     
  8. Mohan
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    But he won you the CT which included a thrashing of India so all is well. :)
     
  9. Del
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    I was watching "Game on hai" during the Test. And during the show Dr. Nauman revealed that Mickey didn't like Asghar and Bilal in the net sessions. Therefore, he decided to go with an extra pacer. It's on record now.
     
  10. Mohammed Bilal
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    What does Dr Nauman Niaz know,Game on hai is such a unprofessional show,Half the times he starts Rashid Latif,Just silly theories,Haris sohail should have been the in the second spinner role.
     
  11. Del
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    The point is, why we didn't play 2nd full time spinner. At least we know who was behind this senseless decision. Sarfraz certainly wanted to go with two spinner, but it was the cranky Mickey, who dictated to opt for three pacers.
     
  12. Karachi-King
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    I don't know the specifics but much more credible journalists than Nauman Niaz have also said that Sarfaraz wanted two spinners but Mickey-al-Assad overruled him
     
  13. Del
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    Yes, it's Mickey who was calling all the shots. Seems like his "honeymoon" after CT hasn't over yet.
     
  14. Munna
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    We can blame anyone for our liking but the fact is that the batsmen went out there with the purpose of scoring runs... they failed to do that when needed most.
     
  15. Mohammed Bilal
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    Mickey Arthur is a good coach you guys just giving him hate

    He selected a team and TBH the players in Pakistan are of a very timid and just unexplainable mindset that it's just beyond,

    I remember the Trent Bridge match

    Morgan hit Wahab for 6 on a ball that sat up,Next ball he bowls the same ball,You can't really successfully coach a team like Pakistan because you can't be too strict or too soft.
     
  16. s_h_a_f
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    No. Dodgy selection by Inzi & dodgy batting killed the series.

    When two of your main stalwarts retire, it was always going to be tough.
     
  17. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Yaar bache bache ko pata hai ke UAE mein spinners khelte hein but Mickey Arthur says he comes from a country where they play 3-4 fast bowlers in a test match!! Inzamam selected the right squad but its Mickey, who needs to be blamed!!
    I think Mickey did not do his homework properly on Pakistan before accepting Pakistan coaching job! Even, a 12 year old who follows Pakistan cricket knows that Pakistan plays spinners in UAE and that's their method of winning in these conditions.
    I do agree with 3 pacers and Yasir Shah but where was the Hafeez option? Why was Bilal Asif not given the chance? Atleast, he could contribute more than under-performing Babar Azam!! Babar Azam got 39 runs in 4 innings, Bilal Asif would have got 78 and he would have picked couple of wickets in both matches and most importantly reduced the workload of Yasir Shah!! Do you think part timers Harris Sohail and Asad Shafiq were enough when Slanka were playing 2-3 spinners at a time!!
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  18. s_h_a_f
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    78 lota’s?
     
  19. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Yeh 4 innings mein 78 to bana sakta hai ya nahi? Sarfraz 6 pe ajata aur Bilal Asif 7 hojata niche se useful runs score kar sakta tha!!
     
  20. s_h_a_f
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    No
     
  21. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Diluruwan Perrera
     
  22. ComradeVenom
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    Bring back iftikhar ahmed!
     
  23. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Bhai Bilal Asif ka qasoor kiya hai? Phele bhi baghair khilaye drop kar diya tha aur is baar bhi khilaya nahi!!
     
  24. s_h_a_f
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    Bring back Sohail Tanvir!
     
  25. Del
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    If focus is on bringing back oldies, then I would bring back Mohammad Asif to rejuvenates our dead fast bowling attack.

    Asif in his first game of domestic season for WAPDA took the following.

    1st inning 5 for 28.
    2nd inning 6 for 53.
     
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  26. Shaz130
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    Guys bowling was not the issue it was the batsmen. Mickey did not lose us the series it was the batsmen.
     
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  28. Mohammed Bilal
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    You need the man,

    When in doubt bring in Imran Farhat.
     
  29. Karachi-King
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    are you calling Mamoon or Leo23?
     
  30. Double Agent
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    the more the merrier :D
     
  31. Mohammed Bilal
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    Need a solid Team:

    1:Imran Farhat
    2:Fakhar Zaman
    3:Ahmed Shehzad
    4:Azhar Ali
    5:Asad Shafiq
    6:Haris sohail
    7:Sarfraz Ahmed
    8:Yasir Shah
    9:Muhammed Asif
    10:Hassan Ali
    11:Rahar Ali
     
  32. Desi_Joker
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    Are you Imran Farhat?
     
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  33. Mohammed Bilal
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    Lol

    Imran Farhat was a legend,Still going strong.
     

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