Umar Amin - A mediocre and overhyped talent?

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  1. Wistful Reminisces
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    Umar Amin looks like a classy batsman. Anyone who's seen him bat will admit that he looks like a gun player, and an excellent batsman. However, his international performances have shown he has major problems against swing and spin. That led me to dig into his domestic record. It does not make for good reading.

    He averages just over 38 in FC and around 32 in List A. This is not the type of player you select. He was selected on the basis of his T20 performances the first time around and he's shown that he's not a fit on the stage. Yes, he looks like a good, compact player but he's a horror against good quality bowling.

    Poor selection, and he should be replaced by Haris or Umar Akmal.
     
  2. Top Spinner
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    Yes,he is.
     
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    Tbh I never rated him
    Umar Akmal, Fawad Alam, Haris Sohail, Hammad Azam, Ahmed Shehzad, etc are better options
     
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    Amin should be replaced by Amin? :S

    And also I'd play Malik over him
     
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    I meant Umar Akmal.
     
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    He looks good, let give him some time to deliver. It been one match & we want to drop him, how bad is that?
     
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    On merit, he shouldn't even be there. And it's not just one knock, even two years back, he looked like a failure
     
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    Tbh he needs to be given a fair run in the side.
     
  9. Saj
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    LOL let him play first.

    First he played in England on grassy wickets where EVERYONE failed. And now he is picked again on same soil.

    Not fair to call him over hyped.
     
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    Judge him after the CT. Give him a fair run before discarding him and callig him medicore.
     
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    Guy played the Asia Cup two years earlier too :fp
     
  12. Saj
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    He is better than Fawad/Haris.

    Give him proper run.

    MOYO rates him highly and i'm sure he knows more than guys sitting behind their laptop screens.
     
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    How can you say he is "better" than Haris, you're also sitting behind your laptop screen
     
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    On what basis is he better than Fawad/Haris? FC or List A record? Not at all

    A run based on what? His pathetic domestic record or his pathetic international one?

    Alam and Haris are also highly rated by many players.
     
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    Hick and Ramprakahs also had great FC records.

    Give Amin a proper chance and i'm sure he will shut your big mouth up.
     
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    Who's guessing a mystery injury to the fella and a call-up for U. Akmal before the Champions Trophy? Poor bloke won't even get a proper opportunity to try and prove his credentials most likely, given how some players have been treated similarly in the past.
     
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    Alan and Haris have better stats
     
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    i hope this happens, lol
     
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    Because he didn't too badly in his last tour of England.
     
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    I hope he can prove me wrong but atm I don't rate him
     
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    :rofl :rofl :rofl
    He got 99 runs in 4 tests :rofl

    Average of 12 :lols
     
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    What about others?
     
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    Alam is better than Amin? LOL

    Fawad Alam is what you call a fazool batsmen.
     
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    One of the bowler should make the way for Akmal.
     
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    Let Haris tour England then talk
     
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    Fawad Alam's stance was awful.
     
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    Azhar did much better, Yousuf did better, even Farhat did better :fp
    Gul did better, Ajmal did better.
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/engla...wling_by_team.html?id=5506;team=7;type=series
    Here, Amin, just above Kami and Wahab :lols
    Alam did well in the LOI's in the same tough conditions. He has a better test average, a better ODI average, and ironically, a better List A and FC average too.
     
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    Powerful batter this guy is.
     
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    his helmet was also too big for him
     
  30. Saj
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    These are averages of just matches against England where pitches got little better. Gul has better avg than most; would you call him our best batter? What a logic.

    By the time OD series came pitches and conditions got far easier! anyone who lives here will tell you that is best time to play cricket. Plus pitches in ODI's are far easier to bat on in England.
     
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    Wow, let's ignore the 50's, the average of 37 in LOI's. Want videos? Here, have some:
     
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    Strong winds here by the thames will blow him away.
     
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    :lols

    If pitches got better, why did Amin do so horridly? Or is he a Green Track Bully? His highest score was 33 in 4 tests, Fawad's was 168 in 3 tests. Fawad has more runs in one innings than Amin does combined in more matches :rofl :rofl
     
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    Yeah, pick on his physique when you have no other reply. Man did pretty well
     
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    hope he has bulked a bit

    pehle to bohot kamzoor tha
     
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    Fawad performed in SL, different conditions.
     
  37. Saj
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    Amin didn't play in ODI's.

    Yes, Fawad score his highest test score against mighty attacks of AUS and Eng in English conditions. :thinking

    Care to remind me what happened to him in NZ ?
     
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    And Amin failed miserably in Asia too, see the Asia Cup.

    Couldn't even score big against Bangla :rofl
     
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    I think he is still the same.
     
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    How many matches did he play in Asia cup?
     

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