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Were Pakistan really that bad in Australia

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  1. Patriot
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    Patriot Kaptaan

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    currently no.2 Test side NEW ZEALAND is on verge of getting white-washed against AUSTRALIA

    NEW ZEALAND have never won a single Test series in Australia.

    They were beaten comprehensively in all the Tests. Never stood any chance.

    After watching their performance, I feel we were too harsh on our team since we are nowhere near NEW ZEALAND level.
     
  2. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    We already knew the outcome of the series before the team even arrived in Australia.

    My biggest disappointment was obviously the the kind of pace bowlers we included in the team (Irfan, Imran K Sr., Musa and Abbas) and how poorly they performed.
    And then we had itikhar in the test team, don’t know doing what?

    we also had extremely poor captaincy at a few occasions and some mind boggling decisions in the selection to rest Naseem in one of the tests.
     
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  4. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Pakistan werent bad in Australia in my opinion. They went at the start of the new season and right after the World Cup when you get a chance to build a new team and thats what we were doing! We experimented a lot to find our new combination and we finally pulled it off against Sri Lanka at Karachi!!
     
  5. s_h_a_f
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    Yeh, they weren’t bad..they were horrendous.
     
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    isaacking Talented

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    Let judge ourselves on the scale of how bad new Zealand has been.

    Evaluation must be scale of positivity.



    It is preferable to be Man of Understanding then to be a Man of Knowledge.
     
  7. Shahzad.Firdous
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    We did not know our right combination to start with. T20s ki mein baat nahi karta cus t20s are like wrestling match for me! Real format is test cricket! Abbas should have been playing the 1st test for sure but Imran Khan sr messed it up for us by performing in the practice day night match!!
     
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    Mohsin Sultan of Swing

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    Tbf looking at NZ performance, our batting wasn't that bad at all...
     
  9. Shahzad.Firdous
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    We were good with the bat but in bowling we suffered as Abbas did not play the 1st test and was not in his elements in the test he played! Abbas regained his form in Karachi which is a good sign but you know playing cricket after such a long time as him and Azhar only play test format, it takes some time adjusting to the cricket if you are not playing cricket for a long period! Same was the case with Yasir Shah! Yasir Shah was getting back to his best in the 2nd innings of Karachi test in my opinion!!
     
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    We were heavily reliant on Abbas, Shaheen, Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah in bowling. Abbas only played 1 test and was not at his best, Shaheen was the best performer for Pakistan in both series with the ball, Naseem only played 1 test on Australia tour and twice got Warner out!! Yasir Shah wasnt at his best either!! So it was the bowling that let us down and not the batting!!
     
  11. Del
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    You all are forgetting one thing, this is an era of home bullies, let these Aussies come to Asia on spinning track and we will see how good they're.

    The biggest disappoints from Pakistan's prospective were:
    A) Team selection
    B) Senior players didnt put up the fight (as usual).

    The problem is with our "core" players. Azhar, Shan, Asad, Harris & Yasir are not good enough as core players. Our supporting players performed much better than these players. Also, Abbas's fitness and form is a massive concern.
     
  12. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    Home bullies is a valid argument but it's not an excuse of taking a crippled pace bowling attack and make horrible selection decisions.

    Sri Lanka ki T20 ney hamaary ghar pe aakay hamaray he pichwaaray pe thooka. So yeah, home bullies excuse is not always valid either.
     
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    Munna Moderator-e-Aala

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    There is no need of comparisons just to hide our own shambles esp with the bowling.
    We hardly took any wickets there and the captaincy (along with team selections) were awful.
     
  14. Del
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    And what happened in Test series?
     

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