What do Pak need to do to Qualify?

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  1. Gotham Cronie
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    You two are talking as if we will be coming out of the dressing room and walking on to the field.
     
  2. Pakistanalltheway
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    Lol I forgot this wasn't twitter.
     
  3. HashiBaba
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    Equation as I understand it:

    If we lose both our remaining games we are OUT.

    If we beat Afghanistan but lose to Bangladesh then we have to hope England lose to BOTH India and New Zealand AND Sri Lanka lose ALL their remaining games AND Bangladesh get utterly pummelled by India so our NRR is higher than theirs.

    If we lose to Afghanistan but beat Bangladesh then we have to hope England lose to BOTH India and New Zealand AND Sri Lanka lose at least one AND Bangladesh lose to India.

    If we beat both Afghanistan and Bangladesh then we have to hope England lose to ONE of India or New Zealand AND Sri Lanka lose at least one of their remaining three games OR if England win both their games we can still in theory go through if New Zealand get utterly pulverised in their last two games.
     
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  4. ShokoTolo_LoloMoto
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    What kinda name is HashiBaba?

    Is this your childhood? I was just wondering.
     
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    Haha no that's not me.

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  6. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    If Australia beat NZ v v big tomorrow Pakistan will qualify without relying on other results (provided they beat AFG and BD ofc)

    Am I getting something wrong here?

    Because if NZ beats England - England will be out

    If England beats NZ - NZ will be out

    So Pak will 100% go through
     
  7. Energy
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    Run-rate will come in between as both NZ and Pak will end up on 11 points.

    Ideal result for us tomorrow is to win big against Afghanistan and hope Australia also beat NZ.
     
  8. KingOfDoosra
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    I said if Australia beats NZ v very big which means their NRR will be dented massively
     
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  10. Gotham Cronie
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    Pak and NZ's RRs are nowhere close at the moment.
     
  11. KingOfDoosra
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    After today they can be

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  12. Gotham Cronie
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    I think you're overestimating how much of a difference one win can make.
     
  13. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    1 win and 1 loss

    NZ is playing AUS in an hour
     
  14. Fireworks11
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    Fireworks11 Kaptaan

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    India to beat Eng.

    Pak to beat Bang.

    Pak go through.
     
  15. PakistanZindabad!
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    Simple equation that started off as a long shot.


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    If NZ loses both games and Eng beats India and pak beats bangla?
     
  17. PakistanZindabad!
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    Then NRR comes to play, worst possible situation


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    The equation as I understand it:

    If we lose to Bangladesh we need England to lose BOTH against India and against New Zealand AND we need India to give Bangladesh the thrashing of their lives so their NRR goes below ours.

    If we beat Bangladesh we need England to lose ONE of either India or New Zealand OR if England win both then we need New Zealand to be obliterated today and against England so their NRR goes below ours.
     
  20. Dare2Dream
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    NZ crashing out to Australia today
     
  21. ASLI-PATHAN
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    As we speak NZ are getting pasting.

    136/7
     
  22. Fireworks11
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    Fireworks11 Kaptaan

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    Aussies doing PAK a favour. Well done
     
  23. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    NZ NRR = +0.57
    PAK NRR = -0.79

    One needs to play England, the other Bangladesh.

    Believe.

    #WeHaveWeWill
     
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    Roughly how much of a swing do we need assuming it does come down to NRR

    Pak need a 100+ win and Nz need a 100+ defeat?
     
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    Probably less than that

    I reckon 75, 75.

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  26. ASLI-PATHAN
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    68 runs Loss for NZ and 68 run win for Pak will make them both finish on same NRR and in that case we would go forward as we won head to head.
     
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    Thank you Mazher Arshad sahab

    So 100 run loss for NZ and 40 run win for Pakistan will also be enough?
     
  28. Energy
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    This doesn't look too bad. Hopefully we can bat first and smash 350 then there's a possibility.
     
  29. Dare2Dream
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    Are you sure? Did you calculate that using all the for and against runs and overs already completed and assuming upcoming 50 over games? It didn't check out when i tried but may be i am missing something.
     
  30. ASLI-PATHAN
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    Even If England win today. The next game will be win-win situation for Pakistan. That is the game between Eng v NZ. If England win today they will go to 10 points. They would want to finish with 12 and be sure of Semi final spot against NZ. If they win that game NZ will remain on 11. If NZ win that game Eng will remain on 10. So for our sake we would like England to really thrash NZ in that game so their NRR would suffer a big blow or lose the game altogether. Win win situation for us. Pakistan will play Bangladesh after that and we will know exactly how big a win we need to top NRR of NZ.

    So all is not lost even if England beat India today.
     
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    Yes I agree
     
  32. Gotham Cronie
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    When I calculated it last night, unless Pakistan beat Bangladesh by around 245 runs, they will finish the group stage with a negative NRR.
     
  33. Energy
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    Oh dear, wow!
     
  34. KingOfDoosra
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    KingOfDoosra Sultan of Swing

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    What if its something like Pak win by 100, NZ lose by 145.

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  35. s_h_a_f
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    Well looks like Eng have killed our hopes
     
  36. Mohammed Bilal
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    We can still go through if NZ beat England and we beat Bangladesh.
     
  37. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    No LOL

    Our calculation was based on the difference between our's and NZ NRR
    Which currently stand at - 1.364 thats is +0.572 - 0.792

    So to match Current NZ NRR we need 1.364 x 50 overs = 68.2 runs win (if both teams play complete 50 overs)
     
  38. s_h_a_f
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    No chance. NZ are on a losing streak & BD are very good.
     
  39. ASLI-PATHAN
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    ASLI-PATHAN Cricistan Khan

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    Far from over for us.
     
  40. Mohammed Bilal
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    Are you sure NZ have to lose by 68 and Pak
    has to win by 68?
     

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