What should be the ODI Squad for South Africa odi series?

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  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    In my opinion, both openers are farigh (Imam and Fakhar). Azhar is retired from odi cricket so thats a dent for us. In my opinion this:

    1. Shan
    2. Abid Ali (if he scores in final test)
    3. Hafeez
    4. Asad Shafiq
    5. Babar Azam
    6. Shoaib Malik
    7. Sarfraz
    8. Rizwan
    9. Shadab
    10. Yasir Shah
    11. Fahim Ashraf
    12. Amir
    13. Abbas
    14. Shaheen
    15. Hassan
    Playing 11:
    1. Shan
    2. Abid Ali
    3. Babar Azam
    4. Hafeez
    5. Shoaib Malik
    6. Sarfraz
    7. Shadab
    8. Fahim
    9. Amir
    10. Abbas
    11. Shaheen
     
  2. Fireworks11
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    That is an awfully weak batting side.
     
  3. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Pakistan is seriously dented by Azhar's loss in odis in my opinion!
     
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    Harris Sohail is a huge loss too!!
     
  5. Fireworks11
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    fakhar is suited to ODIs. He needs to open and provide blistering starts.
     
  6. Shahzad.Firdous
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    He needs to earn his place. He has been below par for too long now. Failed in both tests. Failed in UAE a lot too.
     
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    why should test performance impact odi selection?
     
  8. Shahzad.Firdous
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    We need a Wajahat ull Wasti or Mohammad Wasim type of gutsy player who can take blows on the body to do well in these difficult conditions and not this loose outside the offstump, struggling with short stuff type Fakhar Zaman. Fakhar is indeed a potentially great player but at the moment he is too loose. When Saeed Anwar first arrived on the scene he was similar to Fakhar and Imran Khan did not select him and told him to make his defense strong and learn how to defend in tough conditions. As a result, Saeed Anwar became Saeed Anwar and not just a flashy flamebuoyant player but a team player who knew how to adjust to the given conditions of play! Same thing needs to happen with Fakhar too! He must be dropped and told to make his defense strong and not play this loose cricket!! If it does not happen now we will loose a potentially great opener!!
     
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    wajahatulla wasti! lool
     
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    Fakhar averages 57 in ODIs but should be dropped according to @Shahzad.Firdous

    Typical example of why different formats shouldn't be mixed when judging a player for selection.
     
  11. Shahzad.Firdous
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    At the moment, SAfrica have worked out Fakhar's weaknesses and if we select him for odi series, we will further dent his confidence and he wont be successful. On the other end, SAffers dont know much about Abid Ali who he is so he is more likely to be successful and this would work in Fakhar's favor too! Some time away from the game and in the domestic will help him work on his game and make a comeback even stronger!!
     
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    abid hasn't even played against them yet. Naive analysis.
     
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  14. Shahzad.Firdous
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    He may not have good stats but in World Cup 99, he was successful!!
     
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    Thats what i have said too! Abid hasnt played against SAfrica so they wont know much about him!
     
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    what if abid fails in last test
     
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    this isn't the wc
     
  18. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Then try Usman Salahuddin! He showed a solid defense against England last year in England! I am surprised he was dropped from the Pakistan squad completely after that series!!
     
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    y do u like to mix formats and judge players for selection based on another format? Test performance should impact test selection, ODI performance should impact ODI selection, T20 performance should impact T20 selection.

    from your multiple years of being a specialist cricket analyst have you not realised this is a flawed method to select a squad?
     
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    1:Sian 2:Faks 3:Bob the (innings) builder 4pizza 5:Maller 6:Frazu 7:daba 8:Fahima 9:Amira 10:Mirchi 11:Fridi Mark II.
     
  21. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Offlate, Fakhar's performance even in odis has been dismal!!
     
  22. Mohan
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    Who the heck are pizza and mirchi lol
     
  23. Fireworks11
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    65 in last innings. Pretty good.
     
  24. Mohammed Bilal
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    Hafeez is Pizza, my Lala came up with that, Mirchi is Hassan, can see similarities.
     
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    I think if baba Firdous was the national selector, BCCI might have agreed to play multiple test series against Pakistan :D
     
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    Shan deserves a place instead of useless Imam. I wouldn't drop Fakhar too.

    Rest should be the same.
     
  27. Shahzad.Firdous
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    And what about other 10 innings he has played!
     
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    if you're gonna give abid a go after 1 innings (assuming he does well in last test) then the same logic can be applied for fakhar who is already proven in odis.
     
  29. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Abid bhi agar fail hojata hai series mein to replace hojayega Fakhar wapis ajayega agar perform karega to domestic mein warna kisi aur ko le aayenge!!
     
  30. Fireworks11
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    Average of 57 is not a failure. You should know this as a senior seasoned veteran analyst.
     
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    And Asad Shafiq had earned his place in ODIs. Like he is scoring double tons in ODIs for fun. You have no idea my friend what you are talking about.
     
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  32. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Bhai mein ne kab kaha failure hai Fakhar Zaman bhai Fakhar Zaman has potential to be next Saeed Anwar in my opinion but yeh jo opponents hein inko halka nahi lo purana zamana nahi hai player aata hai eik dum se chah jata hai phir uski technique per video analysts work karte hein aur weaknesses dhoondte hein aur jab player work out hojata hai to us ko chahe dobara se drawing board per jaye domestic mein jaye technique per kaam kare runs score kare and then make a comeback better and more refined! This is international cricket and you got to give respect to your profession! Nobody is bigger than the game! Fakhar failure nahi just work out ho chuka hai is liye humein usko further dent nahi karwana chahye domestic mein uski technique per kaam kiya jaye aur us ko phir wapis laaya jaye fresh ho kar!! He is facing a burnout right now!!
     
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    I hope Asad Shafiq if he makes a comeback into odis would be a better player now! Initial setback ache se ache player ko milta hai!
     
  34. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Asad Shafiq ko chance nahi dena to Usman Salahuddin ya Saad Ali ko do!!
     
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    I dont think ive read worse, random analysis of a selection theory in any thread on any forum anywhere.
     
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    again mixing test performance with odis.. fakhar failed in tests in SA. That is no reason to drop him from ODI. You need to stop mixing formats. He is averaging 57 in ODIs. 57. Fifty Seven.
     
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    1. Shan
    2. Fakhar
    3. Babar
    4. Malik
    5. Hafeez?
    6. Sarfraz
    7. Shadab
    8. Faheem
    9. Hassan
    10. Amir
    11. Shaheen

    Not enough batsmen there to handle pace. All batters are okay for Asian subcontinent
     
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    I think wistful has hacked shahzad firdous account

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    Definitely would like to see Shan opening instead of Imam. Has been successful batting in SA already and has a blistering List A record.
     

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