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Who is one bowler that will get Don out regularly?

Discussion in 'Cricket Talk' started by Shahzad.Firdous, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. Shahzad.Firdous
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    I can think of only one bowler - Great Wasim Akram... If Wasim bowled to Don in his prime era, Wasim would have gotten Don Bradman out 5 times in a 100... he was that much quality... Wasim Akram was a bigger talent than even Don Bradman and Imran Khan... Imran Khan surpassed him and every mortal on earth in other skills column...
     
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    Dunya ke har bowler ko maar par sakti hai but Wasim Akram ko kabhi maar nahi pari cus woh maar khaane ke liye paida hi nahi hua.. sirf wicket lena hi art nahi maar se bachna bhi eik art hai... eik end se respect ke saath bowling karna bhi art hai,,, jehan puri bowling peet jaye aur aapko eik shot tak nahi lage yeh aapki greatness hai aur dunya ka sirf eik bowler Wasim Akram hi aisa tha jis ko kabhi maar nahi pari zindagi mein... scoreboard per agar 500 laga ho to dunya ka koi bhi batsman ya bowler ho maar paregi but jis tarah 2003 World Cup mein Waqar aur Shoaib kuton ki tarah peet rahe the Sachin se wahan Wasim Akram had respectable figures of under 5 runs per over which shows his greatness... 96 ka World Cup aap sirf eik Wasim Akram ke na hone ki waja se haare ho,.. Wasim hota to aap World Cup 96 bare araam se jeet jate he was that much of a difference but even Wasim ke hote hue bhi 5 specialist bowler khelne chahye the us match mein aur yeh log Wasim ki absence mein 4 bowlers se chale gaye... Bowling combination dekh kar decide kiya jata hai ke 5 bowlers se jana hai 4 bowlers se jana hai kiya combination khilana hai... 2003 mein mere hisaab se bilkul sahi combination khela tha Sachin played an exceptional innings to win that match for India... us haar mein Pakistan ki koi galti nahi thi... 96 wale match mein agar Wasim khelta bhi to aapka 3rd pacer Aqib tha Shoaib Akhtar nahi tha Aqib mein aur Shoaib Akhtar mein buhat difference hai u needed to play Saqlain too in that match.. Saqlain agar khelta to score 287 ke bajaye 200 hota...
     
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    Oh bhai kar de. He was not something out of this World.
     
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    Sachin's greatness was in amount of hard work he put in to his work.. his dedication to the job set him apart from his contemporaries... he would spend hours and hours in nets.. he absolutely loved batting and would never throw his wicket away in any situation...
    Wasim's greatness was pure skill and art and craft... his skill level and ability was beyond any mortal just like Imran Khan's other skills... Wasim ko effort nahi karni parti thi wicket lene ke liye Wasim apne talent se wicket leta tha... he was a genius just like we associate with Mohd Asif... Wasim Akram and Mohd Asif both were similar, exceptionally talented but involved in some sort of corruption... Asif was more naughty whereas Wasim was atleast responsible to his job...
     
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    I think Misbah is even better then all of these.
     
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    I think Misbah is even better then all of these. Combined!
     
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    Any bowler can get Don out regularly because he is already dead.
     
  9. Don Quixote
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    Do you mean Don Quixote?
     
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    Glenn McGrath had a better economy rate than Wasim Akram in ODIs.
     
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    If you watch some of the Don's batting clips, you will notice that his favorite, and most played shot was pull towards midwicket.
    In those days, bowlers didn't know the concept of a yorker.
    And as the legend has it, Yorker was later introduced by the bowlers of Yorkshire cricket team.

    I doubt if Don was good against Yorkers, so Waqar at his peak would have him 9 out of 10 times.
     
  12. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Glenn McGrath got done by Razzaq in 99 World Cup.
     
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    Warne was great but I will place him at No. 2. No 1 is Wasim Akram...
     
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    Warne ko bhi maar pari hai buhat baar.. Spinner chahe koi bhi ho kabhi na kabhi peeta zaroor hai,, Sachin got into him a few times in India, Mohd Yousuf got into him in 2005..
     
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    Waqar ko to Jadeja nahi chorta Don kiya chore ga?
     
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    Like Wasim was never thrashed lol
     
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    Dont remember Wasim getting thrashed in normal situation... scoreboard per 500 laga ho to koi bhi batsman ho bowler ho even tailender ho woh bhi aa ker maare ga chahe koi bhi bowler bowling kara raha ho bowler irrelevant ho jata hai aisi situation mein... eik hoti hai proper shots... jo bowler ne sahi line per ball karayi ball batsman ki range mein agayee batsman ne ball ki merit per shot maara jo Wasim ke saath situation thi 2003 wale india match mein aur eik thi woh peetayi aur dhulayi jo Waqar Younus aur Shoaib Akhtar ki hui thi... matlab aap 3rd man ke uper se bhi kha rahe ho on drive bhi kha rahe ho cover drive bhi kha rahe ho square leg se bhi kha rahe ho that was proper dhulayi dry clean that Waqar and Shoaib received from Sachin...
     
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    Just give up. U r no match for the knowledge of advocate firdous
     
  19. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shane Warne aur Murali se ziada effective Saqlain aur Ajmal rahe hein even though those two are supposedly better bowlers than Pakistani spinners. Thing is a leg spinner will always go for runs cus he is an attacking option, his main role is to provide u wickets. Whereas, Murali could be hit straight over his head by competent batsmen which Inzamam and Shahid Afridi used to do regularly and Ponting too did the same..
    Difference that Saqlain and Ajmal possessed was the doosra which set them apart from other spinners and made them difficult to hit as batsmen trying to heave them over mid wicket or mid on would often be bamboozled by doosra and caught or stumped by the one that goes the other way so doosra was their big weapon. But, it worked more against right handers than left handers as competent left hander like Hussey had a go against Ajmal specially at times...
     
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    U didn't see the doosra from murali?
     
  21. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Inventor inventor hota hai Doosra invent Saqlain ne kiya tha and he was master at bowling it, Ajmal perfected it too, Murali was more of an orthodox offspinner, his doosra wasnt as effective or renowned as Saqlain's or Ajmal's...
     
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    Murali was an orthodox off spinner :D

    Ok then.
     
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    And by the way Firdous dude, nobody tries to "hit" spinners in test matches. So Saqlain and Ajmal were effective bowlers in ODIs, nowhere near the class of Warne in tests.
     
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    Orthodox in a way that he was not renowned for his doosra like Saqlain.. he was more renowned as a traditional offspinner. He learned how to bowl doosra in later part of his career after analyzing how Saqlain bowled it. Saqlain is renowned for his doosra aur doosra Ajmal bhi buhat acha karta tha...
    I did not mean orthodox in that way... orthodox in sense of traditional offspin...
     
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    Warne to Warne hai.. jis tarah Wasim Akram aur McGrath jaise koi fast bowler nahi hein isi tarah Warne aur Murali jaise koi spinner nahi.. but cricket ki kuch dynamics hein jis tarah physics ke laws hein chemistry ke formulae hein.. if u are going to bowl just leg spin or off spin, some batsman will surely find a way to attack u cus its turning only one way and its easier to figure out whereas if u are turning it both ways like Saqlain with his doosra, then it becomes difficult to figure out cus u never know which way it will turn although u may be reading it from the palm which is what exactly happened to Sachin in Chennai test, one just went the other way and Sachin did not see it and led to his downfall after a tremendous innings - best innings of his career in losing cause as usual..
    Saqlain aur Ajmal ke saath jo masla hua woh yeh tha Saqlain got tableeghi and lost his bowling completely and ended up getting tonked by Sehwag in Multan on Sehwags way to triple hundred... Ajmal ban hogaya action ki waja se warna yeh donon atleast Murali se aage jaate...
     
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    What was Murali?
     
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    Batsmen attack spinners in test cricket when they get set at the crease specially Asian batsmen who cash in on spinners. When the ball is old and spinner bowling and when its not turning too much, then its time to attack and get as many runs as u can before the new ball is taken... cus batsmen know that new ball will be difficult... its all a part of batsmen's gameplan.. if u dont attack spinners in middle period u wont be able to get to big 100s cus when new ball will come, one delivery will surely have your name on it...
     
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    Warne had more variety as compared to Murali.. Warne had a good wrong un and a very good flipper... but variety banda regularly to use nahi karta his normal delivery is a leg spinner and good Asian batsmen like Sachin, Yousuf and Inzamam targeted him too to certain extent in the middle of the day when pitch would usually go flat and sun would be shining..
     
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    Koi Shaq?
     
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    Both were cleared by ICC so they bowled with the limits and can't be labeled chucker for those matches.
     
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    The first time some English bowler bowled aggressive and fast the Don was shaken. That was Larwood and from one end only. Now imagine in a modern attack we have three good fast bowlers as the norm and one spinner. Now tell me how Don would have fared against Steyn, Rabada and Morkel???
    He would have still been decent but around 50 avg at max.


    Cricket was a different game back then.

    I think Wasim, Waqar, Holding, Marshall, Steyn, McGrath would have no problems bowling to Don.
     
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    Murali was legal.
    Ajmal was legal.
     

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