Why is Shehzad still playing limited overs cricket?

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    I cant make head nor tail of this. if runs were awarded for hitting the field, he would be Bradman.

    he cant score, he cant score quickly, he has been tried and tested, he is a horrifically selfish manipulator, has an atrocious character, and yet he keeps getting picked. why?

    taking out zim and Afghanistan, his t20i record stands at 45 games, an average of 21 at a strike rate of 109.

    even in this postage stamp of a ground against a bona fida minnow, during the power play, all he did was his trademark hitting drives to the field.

    absolutely unjustifiable pick for the limited overs squads and teams.
     
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    The guy doesn't even has the reputation to warrant his selection.
    Not sure what the selector finds in him.
     
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    I like him as a batsman because he has all the shots.

    He is the next Ricky Ponting imo.
     
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    Only Allah know why is he still playing limited overs cricket. He must have done some good deeds in life for which he is reaping this worldly reward.
     
  5. Shahzad.Firdous
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    You guys talk as if Chief Selector can bring players from his home!!
     
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    hahahahahhahhahaha


    if by that you mean a retired international cricketer, I really hope so.
     
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    He's been playing intl cricket for what... 9 years now.

    How much more time does someone need to become a Ponting... and that too in a Pakistani batting lineup?
     
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    OMG @godzilla I had the same thread title on my mind and was about to open it (was away due to zuhr).

    I see he is taking his fitness seriously, which is good but that's about it, he's still a wanna-be.

    At the end of the day it boils down to pure ability issue. And I don't buy this 'short of confidence' BS. He's just not good enough to play modern cricket and soon Mickey will realize it too.

    The myth that 'he is an aggressive batsman' has busted long ago, because his LOI's SR never ever touched 78. That too way before Misbah became captain. His career strike rate is @ 74-75 at best.

    @Mohammed Bilal don't insult Ricky by comparing him with this dud. Hope its a troll.
     
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    well at least he's not in the main formats i.e Test and ODs
     
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    Hmm so this means PCB has given him T20 lollipop?
     
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    i hope so, mainly cuz the format itself is shit and if players wana play for pak so bad just throw them in the t20 squad so that they can shut up for good
     
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    Well but on contrary, isnt it the best format to try your young lads like Farhan? He is blocking the chance of other deserving players who can best partner Fakhar. Also, if somebody shines in T20, then that guy could be tried in LOI's too. So, in a nutshell, he's still hurting our cause.
     
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    I’m being serious, he’s got all the shots and has a similar way of playing but off course there is a huge difference, Ponting was never afraid of hooking and picked out the gaps when he drove the ball, unfortunately for Shehzad the Corey Anderson bouncer has affected him, he’s still a good player as he has scored centuries in NZ and in SA.

    You fans have made the bachera into confused.com, thanks for that, why hate on your own players for no reason?

    He has always had two problems which have been about his tricky personality and his strike rotation. Today the pak fans at the ground were shouting “Selfie, Selfie” how do you think that
    makes him feel?
    I think Mickey will work with him and make him into a better player, one thing is called performing at domestic cricket but if you don’t have the quality of Intl cricket you will not be selected the example of Talat is in front of us as we now know that Hussain Talat is no where near as good as he was proclaimed because he doesn’t have a good back foot game, so how is he going to perform in Intl cricket?
    Shehzad’s selection is justified because you wouldn’t drop someone without playing them and imo as of now he is the second best T20 opener ahead of Farhan and Babar isn’t a opener so he shouldn’t be making way for a parchi like Talat.
     
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    No, that’s not what I mean mate.
     
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    Ricky Ponting??


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    Good to see you back and enjoying @Mohammed Bilal joke.
     
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    Guy has good potential as a comedian tbh
     
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    Perhaps you perceived it as a joke but I feel Shehzad will become a good player in the future, he has shades of Ponting in him, I really don’t know what you find as funny when your own Brian Lara aka Hussain Talat cannot handle any Scottish bowlers.
     
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    Billy, I was about to start something vital but you pulled me into this.

    So you think he's got all the shot, so question is, why doesnt he play those short?

    Why he bogs down and play 5 dots after hitting a six on first ball?

    Why its increasingly difficult for our "Domestic Run God" to buy a single against associate side after take boundary on first ball?

    Why after so many years, he doesn't learn how to find the gaps to take single?

    Why he doesn't know how to play with soft hands, drop a ball close when fields are on the edge of the circle to take a single?

    Why he pile up truckloads of run in domestic, check all the boxes, but yet embarrass himself in international games?

    And please, stop bring up bouncer of Corey, which happened years ago. If he's that soft then he should certainly quit this game. Such stuffs happen, but you get afraid then how will you move on? And it was Corey's bouncer, what would've happened if Dale or Akhtar would've hit him. Maybe he would never dare to touch his bat again.

    Why people hate him? I already said enough reason, but the biggest is that he's pathetic batsman with no skill, he fails to make runs, which is what he's selected for.

    Your comparison of Selfie with Talat is hypothesis, on one hand you're saying that we shouldn't drop someone without playing and on other hand you're advocating to drop Talat, who has just started his T20 carrier, compare to a dud who's playing since easily 8/9 years.

    Yes, Talat has technical issues, but who is perfect in our side? Everybody has problem, but its the intend which matters the most and Fakhar has proven it. What intend does it reflects, when Selfie made 24 runs on 22 balls when 1 four 2 sixes. This means, 13 runs came on 3 balls. He took only 6 singles and a double and rest were dot (12 balls out of 22 were dots). You tell me, is this acceptable percentage of dots? Hell no. I will be willing to invest more in Talat then this dud and soon Mickey will realize it too that - he is not good enough.
     
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    I have been listening to this 'Shehzad will become a good player in the future', since past 7/8 years. When will it happen, nobody knows.
     
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    He should be a Test specialist
     
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    Agree, but Pakistani selector are notorious for picking wrong players for wrong format.
     
  24. Shahzad.Firdous
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    Shahzad can play in all formats but he needs to go back to test cricket first to rectify his game! His shots will come back to him if he goes back to test cricket cus test cricket allows you an opportunity to bat at your pace and work on finer aspects of your game!!
    @Del
    To me, he is playing too much of t20 cricket spread over months. After six months he appears and plays a t20 and does not know what to do/ He takes time in getting acclimatized. By the time he feels his way back into intl cricket, its all too late for him.
    In test cricket, he will get his time to get his act right. Just leave other formats of cricket and concentrate on test cricket. Your majo will come back to you!!
     
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    And thats why he should only focus on Test, retire from T20 and LOI's.
     
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    no professional cricketer is clueless about playing after a couple of months off. they play cricket all year round, or at least season by season. even if its domestic, you still have to hit gaps - our best players come out of the same pool, and some play less frequently than selfie and dont have a problem.
    as regards to the ridiculous comments above that his feelings are hurt by fans chanting selfie - he has himself to blame in the first instance, and secondly, in international cricket you have to face significantly greater stress and aggression. if he is so soft that his game is thrown out because of what we write on a message board, or some kids chanting stuff in a match, he has no business playing cricket and might as well go home and concentrate on his knitting.

    he has been given tonnes of chances at the INTERNATIONAL level, not just domestic, and he fails again and again. theres a point at which you have to face facts and consider that maybe he just cannot take his domestic form to international levels, like ramprakash or hick.

    what other proof do you need than : 45 games, an average of 21 at a strike rate of 109
     
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    The irony & double standards. You should be asking yourself that question.
     
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    Just seen this comment. Hahahaha



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    Selectors to blame for his consistent selection.
     
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    There was literally no reason for him to be selected.. He even failed in the psl and didn't do anything in any of the other T20 competitions ast
     
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    Beats Me.
    In fact it might just be one of the mysteries of the universe, never to be fully explained.....

    Here is the rundown of Shehzad's batting.

    He sucks up balls like he is a black hole.

    It appears that the objective for shot playing is NOT to hit the gaps and you know.......make runs, but rather to hit the fielders.

    And to top it off, pinching singles and doubles is for losers, who can't "hold a pose while the ball is hit straight to the fielder.


    I never believed in the myth of him being a "stroke maker" either.

    @Mohammed Bilal . You MUST be jocking brother, because otherwise, ONLY an insane or BLIND person can compare Shehzad to Ricky "freeking" Ponting.

    This is once again a case of wrong player in the wrong format. Like Azher in ODIs.
    Or guys like Aizaz Cheema in Tests.

    They don't pick him in Tests where, and bare with me, he MIGHT JUST be a bit useful. Where it's actually a requirement to soake up balls.



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    Exactly.

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    Don't worry, he will become a good player on the same day our politicians will become "بالغ".....

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    Well said.
    Even Hick was way better than him in international matches.
    Hicks problem was that English selectors didn't understood ODI game when he was in his prime.
    A stroke maker like him should have opened the batting.
    And he was dropped too soon from Tests.

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    The format where he can be accommodated is Test Cricket. He has no place in LOI teams.
     
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    But how exactly would you achieve this "accommodation"?
    I mean, WHO would you drop to insert him in?

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    I said can be not should be. In the current Test team he can be accommodated as opener in place of Imam. But personally I would prefer Fakhar as opener in Test team.
     
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    Right now, we don't know how Fakher would perform in Tests. It will be only after at least three matches when we will be able to say whether he should be persisted with or that he should focus on improve his game.
    I say that because our FC level is soo low that we just can't say whether anyone who has a good FC record, would continue that trend in Tests as well.

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    Ricky right now:

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